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Yeah, and with respect to the conference package, you would see the
sidebar/whisper state if you were in one, and you wouldn't see anything you
were not a party to.
Brian
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Lantz [mailto:klantz@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 1:05 PM
> To: Miguel Garcia
> Cc: Brian Rosen; xcon@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [XCON] Whisper vs. Sidebar
>
> On this aspect of the sidebar vs. whisper debate I concur with Brian: Both
> sidebars and whispers should be private.
>
> Keith
>
> At 05:55 AM 11/15/2004, Miguel Garcia wrote:
> >Well, this is an important subject, because I recently commented (in
> >SIPPING) that the conference event package should not show participants
> >that are whispering to other participants, due to privacy reasons.
> >
> >Now you mention that sidebars are also private, something I thought it
> >wasn't the case. So, if sidebars are also private by nature, they
> >shouldn't be visible in the conference event package either.
> >
> >I still think sidebars are public. Participants can freely join a
> sidebar,
> >providing they know how to do it.
> >
> >- Miguel
> >
> >Brian Rosen wrote:
> >
> >>I think both sidebars and whispers are private. Only the people in them
> >>know that they are there.
> >>Brian
> >>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Miguel Garcia [mailto:Miguel.An.Garcia@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>>Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:26 AM
> >>>To: Brian Rosen
> >>>Cc: 'Eric Burger'; xcon@xxxxxxxx
> >>>Subject: Re: [XCON] Whisper vs. Sidebar
> >>>
> >>>Brian Rosen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I claim that the ONLY difference between a classic sidebar and a
> whisper
> >>>
> >>>is
> >>>
> >>>>that the Coach has a full duplex connection to the sidebar, while the
> >>>
> >>>Agent
> >>>
> >>>>only has a half duplex connection. The Mark is not in the sidebar at
> >>>
> >>>all.
> >>>
> >>>>As with any sidebar, everyone hears the "main mix".
> >>>
> >>>Another difference is that whispers are typically private in nature,
> >>>whereas sidebars are public. If I am whispering to Brian, I don't think
> >>>the rest of the conference would like to know that I am actually
> >>>whispering to Brian. If I want to make this information public, I would
> >>>use a sidebar.
> >>>
> >>>- Miguel
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Miguel A. Garcia tel:+358-50-4804586
> >>>Nokia Research Center Helsinki, Finland
> >>
> >
> >--
> >Miguel A. Garcia tel:+358-50-4804586
> >Nokia Research Center Helsinki, Finland
> >
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