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Re: OT: Recommend a wireless card

Subject: Re: OT: Recommend a wireless card
From: DCA
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:15:57 GMT
Newsgroups: uk.adverts.computer, uk.comp.homebuilt, uk.comp.home-networking



 to just retain our different opinions then Dorothy.
Any which way - any place who doesn't use a RCCB (ELCB whatever) is mad. Very few places run without one. Doesn't much matter about the arguable earth issue then really

Whatever you choose to call them - current imbalance devices are an excellent idea. Provided the fault current goes to earth. They don't always.

Take the case above of the fan heater. This time it is double insulated, no earth connection. In goes the coffee. The coffee short circuits the live to neutral. The current imbalance device does not trip - the currents are still balanced. The only protection now is the fuse. But the fault current is limited by the loop impedance - and one of those wiping contacts has a couple of ohms resistance. Result - 3kW dissipating in that wiping contact for the next 10 seconds or more. Good luck.

As you say, we'll just have to retain our different opinions. There isn't much point going over the same ground (joke) time after time.

We can leave it to others to form their own opinions..

Dorothy - I feel as if I am banging my head against a wall and I'm sure person to person we would amicably reach agreed territory (perhaps some of this is misinterpretation) I disagree with your arguments - especially where coffee will now conduct so much available current on the chassis and conversely, earth impedance of an extra extension will not take the current???? - what one in a million nonsense! Lets look at an example where the earth of a premises is 0.5 ohms (which is probably far from reality). Over here I could achieve a theoretical current of 480A (I guess that is 240A over there). Now, if you extension lead added another 0.5 ohm which is very unlikely (it is far more likely the overused wall socket has a more worn and unreliable earth than the extension), you will still have 240A over here (and 120A over there). To drop it to 40A the earth would need an impedance of 6 ohms (3ohm in the US) and if it was that high there would be inherent H&S risks in the buildings wiring. That is NOT going to be as a result of a bloody extension lead - or two or three.

I am equally concerned about your explanation of the current imbalance breakers. They do NOT measure leakage on the earth - and in fact operate the same without any earth. They purely rely on a current imbalance between L and N. Naturally, a leak to earth will achieve this but this effect is not exclusive to this as it is measured on the L/N imbalance.


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