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Re: karmic beta

Subject: Re: karmic beta
From: "Karl F. Larsen"
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:20:09 -0600
dean wrote:
> Karl F. Larsen wrote:
>> David Fox wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Kjetil Halvorsen <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hola!
>>>> I just tested karmic beta and it works without problems on my machine.
>>> It is not absolutely necessary to upgrade now. The question really
>>> becomes "Does the current rev of Karmic offer a feature you need?" If
>>> not, and if Jaunty suffices, then you might want to wait, although
>>> there a a lot (the unscientific term is "lots" or "humungous") of
>>> changes. The thing is that what is called Beta (i.e., what was
>>> pressed) is itself obsolete because since then there have be a whole
>>> number (i.e., a lot) of updates to that. I think I must have
>>> downloaded a couple hundred megabytes in package changes since about
>>> October 2nd.
>>> I have yet to install it on my desktop because that is pretty much a
>>> production machine, and I tend to update in place rather than install
>>> new versions somewhere, athough I could shoehorn it into an unused
>>> partition if I needed to. On the laptop, which is more a sandbox than
>>> a production environment, I have been running Karmic for about 2
>>> months now, but I track the updates frequently and keep abrest of
>>> changes on the krmic-changes mailing list. (that's a pretty busy
>>> list).
>>> Just for some perspective, I've been running Ubuntu on these machines
>>> since 8.0r4 Hardy (actually Hardy got installed for the first time on
>>> a now-defunct AMD64 machine) but in reality I started with 8.10 back
>>> in December. Used that for a while but decided to try Jaunty out at
>>> the earliest possible opportunity because both my video cards are
>>> Intels, and there were IMHO horrible side effects in the Intrepid
>>> video drivers that made 3D all but unusable. That was primarily the
>>> impetus for switching to Jaunty and contijnued support and improvement
>>> (or at least perceived improvement) contributed to my decision of
>>> trying Karmic out early. But that doesn't mean you have to, or even
>>> should. I'm used to running continuous testing releases (I ran Debian
>>> testing since before it was officially Etch up to May 2008, but when
>>> trying a new architecture I wanted to try something different, so I
>>> gave Ubuntu a try.)
>>      Important to say, there has been grub problems when you 
>> update your existing Jaunty partition. This is a bad problem 
>> and will not be fixed in the near future.
>>      I put Karmic in a new partition and with an ext4 file system, 
>> and after I loaded Karmic I had a great new system with the 
>> new stuff all working. I am using it now.
>>      73 Karl
> That's my theory regarding 9.10.. as with the whole new grub2 a standard 
> update 
> would not suffice.  So when the "official" release comes out, a total 
> reinstall 
> will have to be in place.
        Not true. As with Jaunty I got the Beta version and so far I 
have received 200 updates. By the time the *REAL* Karmic is 
released I will have the exact same thing on this computer on 
Nov. 2009

73 Karl


        Karl F. Larsen, AKA K5DI
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