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Re: Mono required by ubuntu-desktop

Subject: Re: Mono required by ubuntu-desktop
From: Jamie McCracken
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:19:12 +0100
Corey Burger wrote:
On 7/30/06, Jamie McCracken <jamiemcc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Matt Zimmerman wrote:

>
> We will ship what we feel to be the optimal tradeoff between resources and > functionality. Note that Tomboy and Mono consume nothing but disk space > unless you actually run the application, so you don't need to worry about it > on low-memory machines. OpenOffice.org gets pretty unhappy on such systems
> as well.
>

I know but you missed my point. Why should an efficient app (Gthumb) be
replaced with one thats considerably more inefficient by default?

I see this claim that "Mono is bloated" being bandied about a lot.
However, I don't see much evidence either way. In this specific
instance, do you have hard data that gthumb uses less memory than
fspot?

Some mono apps are more bloated than others so yeah you cant make sweeping general statements on it. I accept tomboy is leaner than most other mono apps but on the other hand I find fspot to be one of the worst offenders.

I suggest you import 50-60 pics or so then check memory. Last time I checked resident memory of fspot was around 98MB (with approx 10mb shared)

Can others come up with hard figures too so we have a balanced view?


However, this is really beating around the bush, because the biggest
issue is that gthumb is basically dead as an upstream, while fspot is
very active. Gthumb also has serious issues with importing and
stability. So even if you were to come with evidence that gthumb is
smaller (memory wise), I I just don't see it out weighing the
unmaintained aspect of gthumb.

I find gthumb to be usable and efficient. Its missing tags and a few other things (which can easily be rectified by adding tracker support to it) but yeah fspot is more polished and has a cool history widget.



Oh, and lets keep this on topic of gthumb, fspot and other mono apps.
Lets no wander off into OOo and abiword, etc or even what to ship by
default beyond this specific issues. There are good reasons to talk
about those, just not in this thread.

I agree but memory efficiency is an important issue especially on notebooks and older machines (and it aint just mono thats a problem here as others have pointed out). I just hope sensible defaults will be applied in the *desktop* whichever way it goes.


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