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Re: Tapestry will be the Sony Betamax? JSF the VHS? Strategy?

Subject: Re: Tapestry will be the Sony Betamax? JSF the VHS? Strategy?
From: "Jamie Orchard-Hays"
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 13:37:20 -0500
Actually, you are mistaken about this. You can start with all the conventional ways and then change the out later if you want. Rails is quite flexible that way.
In fact, one thing I admire about rails is that you can get a full CRUD app
up and running in no time and then iteratively replace the default stuff
with your more sophisticated code. It takes agile Web development to the
next level.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Konstantin Iignatyev" <[email protected]>
To: "Tapestry users" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: Tapestry will be the Sony Betamax? JSF the VHS? Strategy?

People always get exited when something could be created quickly. Personally I am not exited about Rails because they are -"Rails". It means that everything should go in the prescribed way. Pretty much like MS tools and ideology - it is very easy to get done what they expected you to do and VERY difficult to get done what you want.
There is great difference between speed of creating something workable,
and speed and convenience to create _exactly_ what
designer-manager-developer want/need.
And speed-and-convenience of later maintenance and enhancements ids
another matter.

I guess Tapestry wins as the best tool for entire livecycle.
I think MDA/middlegen/trails should be the way to get started with Tapestry quickly. And I think MDA is preferable way because of fancy diagrams, they might get managers excited!

Matt Raible wrote:

On Mar 23, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Jamie Orchard-Hays wrote:

Ruby on Rails has been very successful in their marketing (and word of mouth). David HH solicited money for a professionally designed logo and web site and it shows. Rails now has no less than four books coming out this year and the framework isn't even a year old.

Yeah, they also do releases monthly, not yearly. ;-)



Konstantin Ignatyev


PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2.700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263.000
Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs
a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York:
State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)

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