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guenther vonKnakspot wrote:
> galathaea wrote:
> > In article <1166192625.055480.206250@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > paradoxically calling it a request "for discussion",
> > "Edward Green" <spamspamspam3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> <snip for abbreviation>
> >
> > this desire to get away from certain influence
> >
> > to exert property rights
> > and demark in an environment
> > who has permission to participate
> >
> > moderators
> >
> > referees
> >
> > guardians of the crypt
> > with their handshakes
> > and other social signals of obeyance
> >
> > +#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+#+
> >
> > here i state a rule of knowledge that i hold very strongly:
> >
> > IT IS NEVER MORALLY ACCEPTABLE
> > TO CAUSE OBSTACLES FOR THE FREE TRADE
> > OF POTENTIAL NEW THEORETICAL ADVANCEMENT
> >
> > INFORMATION SHOULD BE ARCHIVED
>
> Ah but dear Galathaea, without discrimination, all information is
> already archived; In an infinite representation in base 23 of the
> number PI, to mention a readable example.
i would hope a convenient compression is available
optimal algorithms available
should i need them
but i had honestly never thought such a beast required
until your post
if it has not been archived prior
i have calculated the first 5 tridodekits
for posterity
3.35kh9
which
if you flip it upside down on a 7-zone lcd
says "bikh see"
in the modern interneolojetissons
if said in the right tone
it can sound like something gruesome saying "big see"
as in seeing the big picture
or something noble like that
except gothic
with a smoking problem
that eerie message should definitely be archived
> True information does only
> exist when patterns and facts occur at different frequencies. When the
> probability of every possible event is 1, the informational content of
> the source is 0. Distinctness is an indispensable attribute of valuable
> ideas.
that is the paradox of noise
your signal transmits more information
the less noise is on the channel
but when you try to compress an information signal
maximal compression has a white noise spectrum
it loses correlation
but elements that have lost correlation
may possibly explore paths that the correlated would not
as dynamics differ
~-~-~-~-~
the noise paradox is semantic
it is a veridical relative of curry's paradox
that relies on the conflict
of two goals with identical implementation
by realising information in noise
we can compress the knowledge of the ages
into an education for the generations
> > +#+#+#+#+#+#+#+
> >
> > the referee paradigm
> > fails this morality test
> >
> > why weep for the burning at alexandria?
> > a thousand years more without calculus?
>
> Which burning Galathaea? Which thousand years?
in the region sometimes known as iskanderiya or alexandria in egypt
a great archive once stood
called the mouseion
it held the teachings of many wise scholars
including original mathematical and philosophic works
by many we still admire
mathematical treatises including those of archimedes
who spent much of his active mathematical life
at the mousaion
but this great archive was destroyed
possibly many times over the centuries
between 48 BCE and 391 CE
and we have only recently rediscovered archimedes great work
in founding calculus
only to be forgotten and refounded
by leibniz and newton
in the late 1600s
this archive
may also have contained a text by aristotle
on humor
> > referees only make business sense
> > in the hard currency of print material
> > where the physical transport of
> > wood pulp and its paper products
> > inks and their ingredients
> > increase costs inordinately
> >
> > bits are extremely cheap
> > in comparison to the rest of the energy economy
> > because signal transport is cheap these days
> >
> > there is never a need to discourage symbolic manipulation
> > what is needed instead is good selection for teachers
> > who can filter the pool
> >
> > ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^ ^..^
> >
> > conservativism grows in the face of a changing world
> >
> > conserving the existing order
> > maintaining the class structures
> > as an engineering control
> >
> > a brake to ill-thought revolutions
> >
> > but in those times
> > where one finds malfunction and error in the system
> > conservativism can find itself manipulated
> > by the existing circle of power
> >
> > revolutions of health optimisation
> > like the industrial revolution
> > and the rest of the information revolution
> > will face physical constraints from thermodynamics
> > and are very difficult to even slow
> >
> > *****************
> >
> > where conservativism becomes obscene
> > is in the oposition of science
> >
> > science is the justification of neophilia
> >
> > all information is new
> >
> > this is the nausea of existence
> > that repels the neophobia of conservatism
> > the reality of the information they see
> >
> > the sickness
> >
> > the broken thoughts of the street criers
> > the obsessive thoughts of the desiring
> > the angered thoughts of the aggressive
> > the fractured polemical thoughts of madness
> >
> > the information does not indicate the behavior is new
> > just the information
> >
> > because one avoids the truth in conservatism
> > by burning the storage of information
> > condemning
> > destruction through moral authority
> >
> > or some other manipulating authority
> >
> > of the past
> >
>
> You should distinguish conservatives from reactionaries.
lately
some powerful magicians
have transformed many conservatives into fascists
they were well-meaning conservatives
eager to play their societal role of temperance
one cannot blame
when such powerful magics
and fearful illusions
have grown a xenophobia
but my point is:
the conservatives should distinguish themselves from reactionaries
for they are the ones being played
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galathaea: prankster, fablist, magician, liar
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