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Richard Herring wrote:
> In message <1165512119.690438.72210@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Paul
> <softwarelabus@xxxxxxxxx> writes
> >
> >I am still waiting for you to show everyone why the kinetic energy in
> >electron flow causes *ZERO* voltage across resistive wire.
>
> Why would I want to do that?
When one claims there's an error they *usually* describe the error. I
have sit back laughing at you and your cronies who truly believe you
are correct when you cannot even describe the error.
> [...]
>
> One little gem:
>
> >The electrical current has an average velocity. On average, one such
> >electron will collide with another electron thereby transferring some
> >of its kinetic energy.
>
> What happens to the first one? Does it slow down now it's lost its
> kinetic energy?
LOL, this is hilarious!!! You can't do it, so your new approach is to
ask more questions, LOL. You are killing me with laughter.
> >This causes a DC pulse, which traverses down the resistive wire.
>
> (Passing lightly over what a "DC pulse" might be, and how it's related
> to the electron motion)
You are grasping at anything you see as you crash to the ground. Show
the error big boy. :-)
> > The pulse dissipates due to electrical resistance,
>
> So what happens to the electrons' kinetic energy? Where does it go?
More questions. Seems like the world of big boy Richard Herring is
collapsing. Are your eyes twitching? Show the error big boy. :-)
> >which generates a voltage across the wire.
>
> Oh? How do the electrons do that? Is the voltage proportional to the
> kinetic energy, or is there some other relationship?
More questions. This is uproarious as the big boy goes crashing down in
front of all his cronies and students!!! This is the final moment I've
been waiting for. You cannot show the error big boy. :-) What does
this make, about the umpteenth time I have destroyed you in debate
proving you wrong. Big boy with his Quantum Mechanics degree.
> >That is how you simplify the problem
>
> To absurdity, in this case.
Yikes, I am overwhelmed by your big boy details.
> [...]
>
> >As the current increases the net magnetic field increases, thereby
> >increasing.
>
> You don't say.
Yeehaa, as he is crushed in front of his cronies and students!
> >It's well known that a magnetic field in a certain volume of space
> >constitutes a certain amount of energy.
>
> Sure. Where's it going?
I apologize, as I probably should not give you a hard time since this
is really a sad moment for Richard Herring. Seriously, just know that
the potential will always be within you Richard Herring.
Here it is again in case you want to step up to the plate -->
Paul wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
>
> I am still waiting for you to show everyone why the kinetic energy in
> electron flow causes *ZERO* voltage across resistive wire. Truthfully I
> am getting tire of waiting while you play your silly game of
> sidetracking in an attempt to save face.
>
> Lets analyze your problem. There is AC current in electrical wire. I
> have made several claims.
>
> 1. At any moment in time energy is moving in the direction of electron
> current flow.
> 2. Electron kinetic energy from electrical current causes a certain
> amount voltage across an electrical resistive wire.
> 3. There are other effects involved such as induction. A certain amount
> of energy contained in the magnetic field of such current.
>
> Lets first analyze #1, "At any moment in time energy is moving in the
> direction of electron current flow."
> Electrons have mass. A moving electron has kinetic energy. The kinetic
> energy is moving with the moving electron. Therefore, such kinetic
> energy is moving with and in the direction of current. It's well known
> electrons have mass. It's well known moving electrons have kinetic
> energy.
>
> Lets analyze #2, "Electron kinetic energy from electrical current
> causes a certain amount voltage across an electrical resistive wire."
> The electrical current has an average velocity. On average, one such
> electron will collide with another electron thereby transferring some
> of its kinetic energy. This causes a DC pulse, which traverses down the
> resistive wire. The pulse dissipates due to electrical resistance,
> which generates a voltage across the wire. That is how you simplify the
> problem. By means of mathematics or computer simulation you can
> calculate the net results of all the DC pulses caused by X electrons in
> a specified length of wire. This concept is akin to magnetic material.
> Consider a coil around magnetic material where the current is
> increasing by di/dt. As the coils current increases there is a net
> opposing voltage across the coil. Although on an atomic scale within
> the magnetic material there are avalanches generating a similar DC
> pulse on the coil. The net result may appear as a steady constant
> voltage, but upon close analysis we know it is not steady due to many
> DC pulses caused by the avalanches. It's well known that electrons have
> mass. It's well known that a moving mass has kinetic energy.
>
> Lets analyze #3, "There are other effects involved such as induction. A
> certain amount of energy contained in the magnetic field of such
> current."
> As the current increases the net magnetic field increases, thereby
> increasing. It's well known that a magnetic field in a certain volume
> of space constitutes a certain amount of energy.
Kind regards,
Paul
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