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T.H. Ray wrote:
> >
> > The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> > > In sci.math, huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx
> > > <huangxienchen@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote
> > > on 30 Dec 2006 19:15:21 -0800
> > >
> > <1167534921.343346.288890@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >:
> > > > Why the hell is it that everybody shuts up right
> > when things are
> > > > getting interesting ?
> > > >
> > > > You guys are scientists ? I've had more
> > interesting conversations with
> > > > bricks.
> > > >
> > > > Ahem -
> > > >
> > > > I believe that I made the claim that
> > indeterminacy is inherent to
> > > > mathematics.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone out there have a pulse ?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I dunno...how does one determine that? :-)
> > >
> > > As for your third question -- define
> > "indeterminacy" in this context.
> > > I'm frankly far from sure what you mean here.
> > >
> > > As for your second question...no, we're not; we're
> > mathematicians,
> > > presumably. What did you think this is,
> > sci.physics? :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > #191, ewill3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Useless C++ Programming Idea #1123133:
> > > void f(FILE * fptr, char *p) { fgets(p, sizeof(p),
> > fptr); }
> > >
> > > --
> > > Posted via a free Usenet account from
> > http://www.teranews.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Signs of life !! (thank Gxd)
> >
> >
> > I've done some looking and cant find anything on sets
> > where set
> > membership is probabilistic. I know that this plays
> > hell with
> > everything known to man, but was wondering if there
> > is such a critter
> > in the woods somewhere.
> >
> > I found something called O-theory, and fuzzy sets
> > obviously, I dont
> > know if there are any others.
> >
> > I think that space is "fuzzy" in a way. That is to
> > say that for each
> > point in space there corresponds a probability that
> > the point exists.
> > Fuzzy space. Energy is nothing more than functions on
> > the fuzz.
>
> You really wonder why no one who has knowledge of
> physics and the mathematics which supports it, wants to
> engage in dialogue with you? It's not the facts that
> are fuzzy -- your language is fuzzy. The fact in this case
> is that every point of space exists with probability 1.
I disagree that each point exists with probability 1. That is precisely
what I am contesting.
> You may mean to say something else -- but you are not
> saying it.
What I am trying to do is construct a mathematical tool which will
describe space.
> If you are simply talking about quantum
> nonlocality, that's not news.
Do you have a mathematical tool which explains whichway information ?
Does anyone posses such a model ? I dont think it's been done.
Using my approach, whichway information becomes practically intuitive
as to why it would occur. If you dont see any value in that then you
are indeed a goose.
> I don't think anyone
> can really tell what you are trying to say, however.
> It's your job to be clear, not the job of your listener
> to understand what you are not saying.
> >
> > Nobody on sci.physics will even talk to me anymore,
> > except Mati, and he
> > thinks I'm crazy. Those wack jobs are still hung up
> > on the unholy
> > quadrangle of the "four fundamental forces". That's
> > as whack as earth
> > wind fire and water. What a bunch of alchemists. Then
> > you got your
> > string theorists - that's one heck of a yarn.
> >
> You might want to try a philosophy group. Seriously.
> It doesn't have any effect here for you to call people
> geese, or to pretend that you're winning a debate where
> there is no debate, or to criticize sources that you deem
> to be too elementary when it's more than obvious that
> you fail to acknowledge elementary facts.
You now claim that I dont have the elementary facts, when just
yesterday your whole defense melted down and you had to forfeit the
debate because you were unable to argue against the merits of my
claims.
> Every worthwhile exchange in this forum depends on the
> application of precise terms. Don't take my word for it
> -- browse the threads.
>
> Tom
I cant poke a little fun at myself ? I'm damn near ranting like the
supergoose JSH. If that's not a good reason to mock someone, I dunno
what is.
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