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Mike Kelly wrote:
> Tony Orlow wrote:
> > Mike Kelly wrote:
> > Nothing is allowed to happen at noon in either experiment.
>
> Nothing "happens" at noon? I take this to mean that there is no
> insertion or removal of balls at noon, yes? Well, I agree with that.
> But what relevence does this have to the statement "noon does not
> exist"? What does that even *mean*?
>
> When you've been saying "noon doesn't exist", you actually mean to say
> "no insertion or removal of balls occurs at noon"?
>
> How about this experiment, does noon "exist" in this experiment :
>
> Insert a ball labelled "1" into the vase at one minute to noon.
>
> ?
I think that when Tony and Han say "noon doesn't exist" they
really mean "there is no noon on the clock in that experiment",
as a way of saying "I have no idea how to answer questions about
noon in that experiment, so I'll say that there is no noon and that
way I don't have to answer any such questions."
I've asked questions similar to yours. The answer is: "It's easy
for me to figure out there's a ball in the vase at noon. Therefore
I will allow noon to 'exist' in this problem."
- Randy
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