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Re: Logarithm of transfinite numbers

Subject: Re: Logarithm of transfinite numbers
From: Virgil
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 13:41:33 -0600
Newsgroups: sci.math
In article <MPG.1e9f1d5a48675f0898abfa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 Tony Orlow <aeo6@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> David R Tribble said:
> > Virgil said:
> > >> I have never seen "Orlow's amazing H-Riffic Number System" either.
> > >
> > 
> > Tony Orlow wrote:
> > > 1. 0 is a real number
> > > 2. If x is a real number, then 2^x and 2^-x are real numbers.
> > >
> > > You have seen it, and now you see it again, and you've seen other 
> > > versions of
> > > it as well.
> > 
> > You omitted the part where you claim that all reals can be derived by
> > recursively applying rule 2.
> > 
> > They can't.  An uncountable number of reals are never derived.
> > For example, applying rule 2 repeatedly will never result in even a
> > simple number like 3.
> > 
> > But please, oh please, prove me wrong.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I wish I could give you a good answer. Hopefully, at some point, I can get to 
> implementing the H-riffics on the computer

No "real number system", nor anything requiring infinitely many objects 
can be "implemented on a computer" as long as computers are limited to 
finitely many states.

One can approximate such systems usefully, as has been done, but never 
more that approximate them.

Anyone familiar with computer science should know better.




, and make it do my survey for me 
> so 
> I can derive rules once the intuition is established, but these gradal-type 
> numbers are difficult. Right now, I cannot exactly tell you the bit string 
> corresponding to 3.

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