sci.math
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: Calculus XOR Probability

Subject: Re: Calculus XOR Probability
From: Han de Bruijn
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 12:35:21 +0200
Newsgroups: sci.math
Virgil wrote:

In article <MPG.1e9dd8e096dfe76398abee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 Tony Orlow <aeo6@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Han's original point is that calculus is very precise and works, whereas the case where you have a uniform probability distribution over an infinite set of possibilities is not well handled by the classical notion that all individual probabilities sum to 1, because the individual probabilities are considered equal to zero. It is the opinion of both of us that this can be resolved, among other ways, by assigning infinitesimal nonzero probabilities to each possibility, leaving intact the notion that the sum of the individual probabilities sums to 1. I am not sure why this is roundly rejected. Can you address that?

Because there is no model of the reals, either standard or nonstandard, in which the sum of countably many equal values can equal 1.

You can repeat this a thousand times, but Tony and I don't get it. In my
not so humble opinion, you must also reject then the  integral(0,1) dx ,
because it is derived from the Riemann sum n.1/n , which is exactly the
same as summing up (n) probabilities with 1/n chance for each. dx = 1/n.
Now take the limit for n->oo and you're done. What's the problem? (Well,
I _can_ understand that mainstream mathematics can't drop the whole wide
world of calculus because of this little issue)

Han de Bruijn


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
Privacy Policy