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Re: Explicit choice functions on subsets of R

Subject: Re: Explicit choice functions on subsets of R
From: "Rupert"
Date: 5 Oct 2006 15:02:16 -0700
Newsgroups: sci.logic
aatu.koskensilta@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > There is no definable well-ordering of the reals.
>
> That's certainly true. It is consistent with ZFC that there is a
> definable well-ordering of the universe (and thus also of the reals),
> though.
>

I may have expressed myself poorly. I think the result I wanted to cite
was "no expression can be proved in ZF to define a well-ordering of the
reals, assuming that ZF is consistent." Is that known?

> --
> Aatu Koskensilta (aatu.koskensilta@xxxxxxxxx)
>
> "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, daruber muss man schweigen"
>  - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logic-Philosophicus


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