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Re: A question about FOL theories and models

Subject: Re: A question about FOL theories and models
From: "George Dance"
Date: 18 Aug 2006 17:33:32 -0700
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Nam Nguyen wrote:
> ZF(C), after all, is just one theory out of infinite number
> of 1st order ones. (Formally, FOL framework never insists that
> we have to know about ZFC to formalize a different theory.)
>
> Assuming we've formalized a theory G of "geometry", how could we prove
> that the 5th "postulate" - as an axiom - is unprovable in G, without
> mentioning anything about ZF(C)? In other words, how could we possibly
> come up with a specific model of G in which the 5th is false? Thanks.

What's all this about axioms being proveable in a system?  I've never
heard of such a system - how does that work?


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