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Re: How are syllable boundaries determined

Subject: Re: How are syllable boundaries determined
From: Horace LaBadie
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:07:24 -0500
Newsgroups: sci.lang
In article <1167523439.046699.91790@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
 "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Horace LaBadie wrote:
> > In article <1167450300.464167.286720@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> >  "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > A sub movie in English wouldn't be called "The Boat."
> >
> > That's likely due more to the marketing department's realization of the
> > public's unfamiliarity with submariner's parlance, in which the sub is
> > commonly "the boat." The term does show up in dialogue, however. A sub
> > is also called a ship, however, in some circumstances. I seem to recall
> > both being used in "Ice Station Zebra."
> >
> > I think that there is a Navy dictum that goes, "Officers fight the boat,
> > chiefs run the boat, and the crew works the boat."
> 
> In that case, the German public is more familiar with submariner's
> parlance than the American and British public, right?
> 
> In Chicago, the term "U-boat" is known, because the U-505 has been on
> display at the Museum of Science and Industry for 50 years or so. Did
> the term persist in English usage elsewhere for any appreciable time
> after the cessation of hostilities?

I would suspect that U-boat is well known everywhere, but that the 
simple term boat would produce an entirely different image in the US 
unless the context were explicit.

Other than the handful of movies in which the term "the boat' is used, 
the Electric Boat Company is probably the only connection between that 
term and submarines that the public would be aware of.

Having just finished watching "Zebra," the Electric Boat Division is 
mentioned twice by the sub's captain (Hudson), who otherwise calls it a 
ship, but the term boat is used by the Russian Vaslov (Borgnine).

HWL

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