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Ray wrote:
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> > Ray wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I don't know it's proper to ask this kind of question here. But it has
> > > recently come to my attention that the noun phrase "courses lectured in
> > > English" is rather common. As a non-native speaker and learner of the
> > > language, I don't think it is correct. Could the native speakers of
> > > English among you please tell me what you think?
> > >
> > > I'd appreciate your help.
> >
> > It's not grammatical, because it's the passive of "someone lectures the
> > course," and "lecture" is not transitive that way.
> >
> > You can say "She lectured her students," but that doesn't mean that she
> > taught them by lecturing -- it means that she scolded them.
>
>
> Someone brought the following passages to my attention:
>
>
> 1. It was asked how much consideration questionnaire results received,
> and why, if a lecturer scores very badly one year, he/she may continue
> to lecture the course the following year.
> (http://www.maths.ox.ac.uk/~murc/minutes/mins9511.html)
>
>
> 2. Resources are required to lecture the course, to invigilate the
> practical and problem sessions, to set and mark coursework, to set and
> mark exams, to answer student questions, and so on.
>
> (
> www.engineering.ucl.ac.uk/committees/pg_sub/Documents%20for%20Approval%2014%20August%202006/COMPGF01_gpcJune20061.doc">http://www.engineering.ucl.ac.uk/committees/pg_sub/Documents%20for%20Approval%2014%20August%202006/COMPGF01_gpcJune20061.doc)
>
>
> The two sentences are taken from British sources. I want to know
They sure talk funny in England.
> whether they are valid evidence for the transitive use of the verb
> "lecture". Or are the authors non-native speakers? Maybe could you
> please look at other sentences on the sites to see if there is any sign
> of non-native English speakers?
No, thank you.
It's bad enough that they are an Oxford mathematician and a London
engineer.
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