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Re: English IPA transcription of "er" vs "rer"

Subject: Re: English IPA transcription of "er" vs "rer"
From: "Peter T. Daniels"
Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:32:32 -0700
Newsgroups: sci.lang, alt.english.usage, alt.usage.english
kleinecke@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Bart Mathias wrote:
> >
> > I had a student from Baltimore once who said "murderer" in a way that
> > sounded like "murder" to me.
> >
> > Until I saw Nathan Sanders' reply to this query, I had always vaguely
> > assumed that a "rer" would result from the same sort of relaxation and
> > re-exertion (probably not the proper phonetics term) that made "ye"
> > /yIy/ and "woo" /wUw/ possible,
>
> The word mirror is even worse. In my idiolect, so far as I can tell,
> there are four successive "r"s. The first one is differentiated by
> belonging to the first syllable; the last three are two "tense" "r'"s
> separated by a "lax" "r". All of these I make humped and without any
> lip motion.
>
> I say "tense" and "lax" but I don't really understand what I am doing.
> It's all done down in the throat, so it may be pharyngeal.
>
> But don'r generalize from my idiolect. Most people think I say "mirror
> in a very odd way.

Do "mirror" and "mere" rhyme?


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