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Paul D wrote:
> On 2006-08-19 01:23:22 +0900, "Yusuf B Gursey" <ybg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>
> >
> > Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >> Paul D wrote:
> >>> On 2006-08-17 20:57:23 +0900, "Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim"
> >>> <Jdibrahim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> >>>
> >>>> I understand it is not that easy to classify the many varieties of
> >>>> Arabic but it is still useful for orientation.I would like now to make
> >>>> the following proposal (subject to change):
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. Middle East
> >>>> - Mesopotamian Iraq / Kuwait
> >>>> - Levantine: Syria / Lebanon / Jordan / Palestine
> >>>> - Arabian Peninsular: Saudi Arabia / UAE / Bahrain
> >>>> - Yemen& Oman Yemen / Oman
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. Africa
> >>>> - Egyptian: Egypt, Sudan, Libya
> >>>> - North African (Maghreb) Algeria / Morocco / Tunisia
> >>>> West Arabian
> >>>>
> >>>> - African Mauritania, West Sahara
> >>>> Somalia, / Djibouti?,
> >>>> Eritrea?
> >>>> Chad?
> >>>
> >>> What about Malta? Maltese is an Arabic dialect, albeit with a lot of
> >>> borrowing from Sicilian.
> >>
> >> Arabists (including e.g. Kaye & Rosenhouse) usually agree that Maltese
> >> is a separate language, because of the immense Italian input, the roman
> >> alphabet, the non-Islamic culture -- and the non-mutual-intelligibility.
> >
> > also other considerations, like self-identity (they don't consider
> > themselves arabs), and that it is standardized and used without
> > diglossia with standard arabic.
>
> All good reasons not to include it, although I wonder about mutual
> intelligibility. A Maltese man I know about was able to converse with
> Arabs in Libya and Tunisia without too much trouble, apparently.
> Perhaps he played down the difficulty.
a had heard they could get the gist of arabic conversations. but a
maltese origin poster in sci.lang said his mother was unable to
understand arabic anouncements on a UAE airlines flight. nevertheless,
they don't consider themselves arabs, and in Malta arabic and Maltese
departments are seperate, Peter Daniels had said in this forum.
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