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"pete" <vincent@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> In sci.geo.geology, on Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:12:44 GMT, George
> <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> sez:
>
> ` "Bob Officer" <bobofficers@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> ` news:k8klv1ha4rjv24r1fk7045jk1l59jn28lk@xxxxxxxxxx
> ` > On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:48:59 GMT, in sci.geo.earthquakes, "George"
> ` > <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> ` >
> ` >>
> ` >>"Skywise" <into@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> ` >>news:11vlc6d2b4l3la4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ` >>> "George" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> ` >>> hxwKf.781084$x96.334152@attbi_s72:">news:hxwKf.781084$x96.334152@attbi_s72:
> ` >>>
> ` >>> <Snipola>
> ` >>>> Brian, you just gave me an idea. Those large transformers at the
> ` >>>> substation near my parent's home used to blow up on a semi-annual
> ` >>>> basis
> ` >>> <Snipola>
> ` >>>
> ` >>> I wasn't thinking of that specifically, but now that you mention
> ` >>> it, that could very well be the cause. I recall watching expose's
> ` >>> on TV back inthe 80's and earlier about the dangers of PCB's in
> ` >>> transformers. Seemed there were cancer clusters popping up all
> ` >>> over that had that one thing in common. Even the 'pole pigs' on
> ` >>> the neighborhood pole leaked, contaminating backyards.
> ` >>>
> ` >>> Brian
> ` >>> --
> ` >>> http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy,
> Skepticism
> ` >>> Seismic FAQ: www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html">http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
> ` >>> Quake "predictions":
> www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html">http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
> ` >>> Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
> ` >>
> ` >>Yeah, given that I've worked on sites that were contaminated with
> PCBs,
> ` >>it
> ` >>should have occurred to me sooner. Duh! Only thing is, I've looked
> up
> ` >>the
> ` >>toxicological effects of PCBs and there is no mention of the kinds of
> ` >>cancers and non-cancerous tumours that I've seen in my parents'
> ` >>neighborhood. The worst damage it causes is liver cancer and cancer
> of
> ` >>the
> ` >>bilary tract. No mention of brain tumours. The reports do suggest
> that
> ` >>it
> ` >>may be a factor in other diseases. Sigh. It's never easy, and
> rarely
> ` >>simple, is it?
> ` >
> ` > PCB break down to Dioxins
> ` >
> ` >
> www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=dioxin+PCBs&btnG=Search">http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=dioxin+PCBs&btnG=Search
> ` >
> ` > www.noharm.org/us/pvcDehp/dioxin">http://www.noharm.org/us/pvcDehp/dioxin
> ` >
> ` >
> ` > --
> ` > Ak'toh'di
>
> ` Yeah, I know. Nasty stuff.
>
> ` George
>
> I'm somewhat ambivalent about the whole powerline thing (there's
> currently
> a row locally over a 250kV line being pushed through a nearby
> neighbourhood). I've generally been in the camp that says look, you
> get higher fields sitting next to your 110V lightbulb 6" from your
> head while you read your book, but I must admit that when those
> fields are at that strength over such distances that you can hold
> up a 4' fluorescent lamp at night and see it lighting up from the
> voltage difference, there are certainly going to be some sort of
> effects going on. That said, I've tended to be of the opinion (because
> I know much less about chemistry, biology, and toxicology, and
> the answers are likely to be in the areas I haven't explored...)
> that the place people should be looking is to the atmospheric
> chemistry that is catalyzed by the corona discharges around the
> conductors. In the particle physics HV wire chamber detectors
> we use around here, we have to design to eliminate any chance
> of corona discharges, beyond any electronic interference they
> can cause, because the strange chemistry they foster (via strange
> ions and radicals they pump out) will poison the delicate balance
> of gases needed to maintain a situation where a charged particle
> will cause a small burst of current in the HV field, which then
> spontaneously quenches before an arc develops. O2 is also a
> nasty killer for wire chambers, and because we keep it out,
> we can see a lot of the weird results of HV discharge that
> would otherwise be oxidized into less obvious forms. For instance,
> we will often see, in afflicted chambers, the organic vapour
> components of the gas mixture polymerizing with silicon apparently
> from the fibreglas of the chamber structure, and plating onto
> the wires as some sort of silicone glorp. What sort of species
> might you get with atmospheric N2 and O2 and plastic insulator parts,
> forming on the towers and drifting down, studded with active
> radical bits? This would suggest undergrounding HV lines would
> eliminate the problems...
>
Until water leaks onto them. By the way, what is a "glorp". Is that a
professional term? lol
George
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