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Re: hooo boy...

Subject: Re: hooo boy...
From: The Phantom
Date: 30 Jul 2005 12:26:05 -0500
Newsgroups: sci.energy.hydrogen
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:10:14 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>BobG wrote:
>> Come on Paul... You and Don talk in a very dense code... fill me in...
>> this is bogus because its a rehash of Brown's Gas? Some guy won a
>> Darwin award for blowing is britches off with a batch of Brown's Gas?
>> If this is an elaborate charade, it seems pretty well done at first
>> glance.
>> 
>
>It ain't even close.
>
>Even at a casual glance, to me the site immediately raises fundamental 
>thermodynamic violation and similar questions. I would strongly expect 
>the same reaction from anyone else reasonably trained in science, 
>chemistry, or engineering.
>
>It is exceptionally easy to mismeasure hydrogen temperatures because the 
>emissivity lies primarily in the ultraviolet rather than the infrared.
>
>The claimed 10,000 degree temperatures would seem exceptionally unlikely 
>to me. Similar claims were also a mainstay of the previous Brown's Gas 
>bogosity.

  I notice that it's 10000 degrees *fahrenheit* that they claim.  A
person could show up at one of their weekly demonstrations with a
piece of tungsten and see if they can melt it.

>
>Since I also have hazmat training, calling stoke gas "stable" seems to 
>me to be quite a stretch as well. The stuff is exceptionally dangerous 
>because of its trivially low spark energy.
>
>The site also very clearly appears to me to have "looks like a duck, 
>quacks like a duck" pseeudoscience written all over it.
>
>--> IF <-- they are real (to me the odds at this point are utterly 
>overwhelming that it clearly and obviously is bogus), the question 
>remains ---> why <--- they would purposely make themselves blatantly 
>look like an outright scam.
>
>Time will tell. In a few months, will they be the centerfold of Science 
>magazine for their stunning breakthrough that clearly upsets centuries 
>of fundamental research; or will they be spiked to the wall in the state 
>Attornys General office?
>
>See...
>
>http://www.tinaja.com/glib/bashpseu.pdf
>                                www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf">http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf and
>                                www.tinaja.com/glib/muse120.pdf">http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse120.pdf


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