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Subject: Re: Great Thread Redux
From: Don Lancaster
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:36:43 -0700
Newsgroups: sci.energy.hydrogen
fkasner wrote:
Don Lancaster wrote:

knews4u2chew@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/browse_frm/thread/be44fccd7685c55f/6bf43c624e6c7789?lnk=st&q=%22flyback+transformer*+meyer%22&rnum=1&hl=en#6bf43c624e6c7789

Do the Experiment.

<begin experimenters post>


If you like to do some experiment, try this.


AT FIRST:


You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
nuclear reaction. A lot of people don't understand that but they like
to argue a lot in every NG on Internet.


In a chemical reaction you need a lot of current and some salt for
making the water conductive.


In a nuclear reaction you don't need any current at all, only high
voltage. How much current you need in a real application depends
on how clean your water is. As cleaner as better.


Stanley Meyers method's have NOTHING to do with chemical
reactions.


HOW TO?


As a guide, you need US Patent 4,936,961 ref. figure 1 to 3F.


If you read something about magical frequencyis, forget that.
It works fine with 10KHz or something else if you preferred.
Use 50% duty cycle. BUT! the frequency will be doubled in the
step up circuit and that's the frequency the Water-Cell will work
with. The components must resist at least 2000V.


The Water-Cell is very simple. Take a lot of stainless steel tubes
with the inner diameter of the bigger tube 3mm bigger than the outer
diameter of the inner tube. From now you must look at this
Water-Cell as a capacitor with water as dilectricum.


The Water-Cell and the INDUCTOR will resonate at a specific
frequency. It's a normal RC-circuit.


Now the most important: The Water-Cell/Inductor frequency and
the doubled frequency from the generator must be exactly the
same. A special condition exists in a L/C Circuit, when it is
energized at a frequency at which the inductive reactance is equal
to the capacitive reactance, XL = XC.


Adjust the voltage peak level to reach a maximum hydrogen/oxygen
producing with a minimum of current using. If you earlier make
hydrogen with the electrolysis method with a lot of current,
this experiment will really surprise you.


For even less current you can make some experiment with a
centertapped puls-transformer.

<end experimenters post>



The above is utterly and totally and hilariously not even wrong.

Without any current, please clarify where the electrons are going to come from that are BY DEFINITION required for electrolysis.

The above experiment IS conducted many billions of times daily.
With uniformly negative results.

One type of instrument that does the measurement for you is called EIS, short for electrochemical impedance spectrography.

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Don, I recognize that crazy post. It was originally by our departed denizen who made that large crater in north Nevada. I won't even bring up his name since it is like calling on the devil; he may reappear.
FK


The crater was not all that big.
You could hardly see it from Nebraska.

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Many thanks,

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