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Re: DC Ammeter Sensitivity Increased?

Subject: Re: DC Ammeter Sensitivity Increased?
From: Lostgallifreyan
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:44:00 GMT
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair, sci.electronics.components, sci.electronics.design
Jeff Wisnia <jwisnia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:Mt2dnbI78os5YIfYnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 

> Homer J Simpson wrote:
> 
>> "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
>> news:zLydnZVzrJEpLYfYnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>>>I believe the ammmeter is what I used to know as a "moving iron"
>>>type, and IIRC the restoring force was supplied by some kind of
>>>permanant magnet field, not by a mechanical spring. Am I right about
>>>that? 
>> 
>> 
>> Nope. Still a spring.
>> 
>> http://www.tpub.com/content/doe/h1011v4/css/h1011v4_76.htm
>> 
>> Moving  iron  vane  -  The  moving  iron  vane  meter  operates  on 
>> the principle  of magnetic repulsion between like poles.   The
>> measured current flows through a field  coil  which  induces  a  like
>>  magnetic  field  into a  fixed  and  moving  vane causing  the 
>> moving  vane  to  deflect  a pointer  in  proportion  to  the 
>> current  or voltage applied to the coil. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> I hear what you say about a spring, and it makes sense that there may
> be one there. But it's interesting that the reference link you gave 
> mentioned "springs" when describing the first two meter types, but not
> the moving iron one. Wonder why? Probably just an oversight.
> 
> Jeff (Who is NOT going to tear that old meter on the Eico 1050 apart
> to find out.)
> 

You can test for a spring without dissection. First, does the meter jump to 
a position and oscillate a bit before settling? If so, put your ear (or a 
stethoscope) to the meter panel and tap it sharply. If there's a spring in 
there it should ring like a bell. If you see that resonace in the meter 
movement, yet hear no spring, then you and Homer are probably right, the 
spring would be entirely magnetic.

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