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Re: 240V relay contact suppression

Subject: Re: 240V relay contact suppression
From: John Popelish
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:55:45 -0400
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.basics
MarkMc wrote:
Hi

I'm using a relay with 240VAC coil and 240VAC contacts.  From what I've
been advised before with relays (not 240VAC), I understand it's a good
idea to protect the contacts with a capacitor and possibly a MOV like
below;

Is this required for AC and is it a good idea to have a MOV?

Also, I assume I need do nothing on the coil side, seeing as it's AC?
Normally, I'd expect a reverse biased diode in there somewhere.

Regards,
Mark




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                              | |MOV       |
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                                240VAC(out)
(created by AACircuit v1.28.5 beta 02/06/05 www.tech-chat.de)

To protect AC contacts, it is common to add an RC across wither the load or the contact. You get slightly better protection if it is across the contact, but more off state leakage current.

The resistor should limit the peak instantaneous current at contact closure to something like half of the contacts current rating. The size of the capacitor depends on the inductive energy the load will dump when its current is interrupted by the contact opening. If you under size it, it might be damaged by over voltage, unless it and the resistor are paralleled by an MOV, as a voltage clamp. However, if the MOV fails shorted by line over voltage (and the network is across the load), it will probably destroy the contacts. However, if the network is across the contacts, not only is it much harder to blow the MOV (because the load impedance limits peak current during a line voltage spike) but failure shorted just turns the load on.

You cannot put an MOV in series with the load, as you have shown, because it has a high resistance, except during over voltage situations. So you would get very little voltage across the load.

I have often used an MOV across AC relay coils, to limit the rate of rise of voltage (by virtue of the MOV's inherent capacitance) and a voltage limit by virtue of its voltage dependent resistance. This will make contacts driving the coil last longer and make less electrical noise.

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