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Re: 10-inch-diameter speakers

Subject: Re: 10-inch-diameter speakers
From: "Tam/WB2TT"
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 09:46:32 -0400
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.basics, sci.electronics.design
"John Fields" <jfields@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
news:vr4r72h9dp1hnvsaiihkcfilb9d962lo9f@xxxxxxxxxx
> On 31 May 2006 01:20:04 -0700, epiang@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>
>>Pooh Bear wrote:
>>
>>> What youd need to watch is the impedance. Car speaker are normally 4 
>>> ohms to get
>>> more watts from a limited voltage source. Hi-fi loudspeakers are 
>>> typically 8
>>> ohms. Just be sure your receiver's happy with driving 4 ohms.
>>
>>Oh yeah... limited voltage source.  So, from V=IR, is it typically
>>about 24V or so driving hi-fi loudspeakers?
>
> ---
> Depends on how much power your receiver can pump out.
>
> Assuming it's a voltage source and is rated to put 100 watts into 8
> ohms means that the voltage it needs to supply into across that
> impedance will be:
>
>
>     E = sqrt(PR) = sqrt (100W * 8R) ~ 28VRMS
>
> And the current:
>
>          E     28V
>     I = --- = ----- ~ 3.5ARMS
>          R     8R
>
> Since the current the amp can supply is what will limit how hard the
> 4 ohm load can be driven, we can say:
>
>
>     P = I²R = 3.5A² * 4R = 50W
>
>
> It's 50 watts instead of 49 because of the rounding we did earlier,
> but the point is that with a load of 4 ohms instead of 8 ohms you
> can only get half the rated power from the amp.  There are a few
> more things to consider, like how much voltage headroom the amp has
> and how hard you can overdrive it before you hurt it, but with a 4
> ohm load you should start hearing distortion with the volume control
> cranked to a little over "5".
>
>
> -- 
> John Fields
> Professional Circuit Designer

That is not true if the amp is capable of driving a 4 ohm load. The specs on 
my Onkio are:
70 W/Ch into 8 ohms
90 W/Ch into 4 Ohms

He could get around the whole problem by buying 2 pairs of speakers, and 
having 2 in series for each channel. Still, there is the question of what's 
the point? To get hi-fi sound, he would have to add a crossover network and 
high frequency speakers. Everything would depend on the desighn of the 
cabinet. Probably better off buying packaged speakers.

Tam 



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