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Re: mathematacs of emotional expression

Subject: Re: mathematacs of emotional expression
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Date: 9 Aug 2006 18:30:45 -0700
Newsgroups: sci.cognitive, comp.ai.philosophy, rec.arts.fine
Chris wrote:
>I think what you are seeing here is pretty much the misapplication of
>mathematics (actually statistics) from relatively simple physics problems to
>much more complex human issues.

I'm in agreement with you, but maths is inseparable
from the arts at some level, I think, in that both are
tools to describe the world around us.

Glanceable wrote:
>You still have to allow for each human being as so
>complex as to be unique.

Yep! personal and private experiences are unique...no
two people are alike, can we really design a common
application suitable for describing the innermost
experiences of everybody? I suppose you could apply a
general application, but even then I think the
association made between the washes of algorithms in
the environment are too far removed from the realities
of whats going on inside densely structured cranium.
(unless its broadly associated with qm)

Peter H.M. Brooks wrote:
>Fractal analysis isn't all bullshit....
:)



I'm not keen on Van Gogh - - but I messed around
with the composition this afternoon
http://www.geocities.com/nickielson/VG/VGcomposition.html

I was thinking of the interference patterns you
sometimes get when the atmosphere is clear and
frosty, when theres a halo around lights in damp
weather.

   Halo around the moon
http://home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/moonring/moonring4.jpg
   Path integral formalism / Feynmann path integral
www.unet.univie.ac.at/.../qg_qft/node3.html

but once I'd blotted out the landscape and the stars
and the interference I was left with the bands
formations in the sky....I've never seen clouds like
that - and wondered where the idea came from? The
painting technique looks like a linocut or woodcut
I know that there was quite a bit of interest in
Japanese woodcuts at the time...but wasn't it too
early for primitivism? (African). Looking back at
the shape of the clouds, they do look like folded
fabric (Japanese fashions used sumptuous amounts
of silks that folded like the stiffened linens of
Durers early woodcuts)

Fine....But why in the sky? why transpose a quality
of an earthly material up into the celestial?

what could we say.... what phrase or summing up would
describe thus symbolism? when this sort of transposition
was first investigated by the surrealists via Freud
etc. many years later.

Maybe 'A ribbon in the sky'? Google is great! and I
came up with ref to a poem/song by Percy Bysshe Shelley
1792-1822 - (who incidently was married to Mary Shelley
of Frankenstein fame).

I'm not well up on poetry and English lit.....does
anyone know if Van Gogh was fond of Shelleys work?

...
I think Hundertwassers work would be a better subject
to explore interference and Kolmogorov - as for being
a suitable subject to mark with a future place holder
'detecting psychic disturbance' I very much doubt it.

art and math
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/math5.pattern/lesson8math.html



Best regards,
Niki


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