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On Apr 23, 6:24 am, David Weinshenker <daz...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> OG wrote:
> > Some think he's a troll merely posting and re-posting to cause annoyance. I
> > suspect that he is suffering from a deep delusion; he 'knows what he thinks'
> > but he has neither the topic knowledge to adequately explain himself nor the
> > self knowledge to accept that he might be mistaken.
>
> > Hence the inability to justify any statement he makes and the extensive
> > repetition in his responses.
>
> Yeah, it seems like he just got ants in his pants
> at the thought that the sidereal day represents the
> "natural" rotation of the earth when "everybody knows
> that the earth turns once every 24 hours!", and never
> really thought the matter through in much detail... and
> then compounded it by picking up a hazy notion that
> "astrology" is supposed to be a derogatory term, without
> understanding that the aspect of it that is deprecated
> in modern thought is the set of notions about what it
> meant to be "born under a certain sign" etc., not the
> observational part (which -was- "astronomy", as it was
> then practiced, and accurate as far as it went).
>
> -dave w
> recently infected with the "Telescope Bug", and proud
> to engage in "magnification astrology" if that's what
> he wants to call it!
Maybe you should join the Miller guy who does'nt know and does'nt
care,the world may as well be flat and the stars are on an
astrological sphere merry-go-round,it has no meaning to his
automation gadgets and his existence.
Like yourself,he probably imagines the 24 hour day just popped into
existence or that the correlation between thea xial cycle and
terrestrial geometry at 24 hours/360 degrees evolved with the
dinosaurs but it says quite a lot about people who were involved in
this thread insofar as the only 'fact' that was repeated over and over
again is false value of 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds for axial
rotation through 360 degrees and the phony expansion of that reasoning
into heliocentric astronomy .The 'sidereal time' explanation to
justify the Earth's motions is not heliocentric,it is not even
geocentric but it is purely astrological -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Tiempo_sid%C3%A9reo.en.png
Guys like Miller are oblivious to anything but inventions ,its like
asking a child to set aside a toy and look at something to do with his
existence,I do not fault them,that is just the way it is.It is the
guys with the magnifying toys where things become problematic and in
one specific way.The Ra/Dec system is a fine caledrical
convenience,it can predict the position of objects against zodiacal
geometry within the context of the calendar system but that is where
it stops.Flamsteed was the first person to link axial rotation
directly zodiacal geometry ,specifically -
The careful observations of variations in natural noon and the
Equation of Time correction which equalises the variations to 24
hours keeping these equable 24 hour cycles elapsing into each other
and from there into terrestrial longitudes and the 360 degree
geometry of the planet ,all these represent the work of many,many
brilliant people and probably has roots back in remote antiquity.
After decent clocks were developed based on those principles,one
numbskull - John Flamsteed,takes the decision to tie axial rotation
directly to zodiacal geometry ,the same geometry you see in horoscopes
and then draw the dumbest possible conclusion -
"... our clocks kept so good a correspondence with the Heavens that I
doubt it not but they would prove the revolutions of the Earth to be
isochronical... " John Flamsteed
I give you your answer using the correct 24 hour/360 degree principles
that the guys at the South Pole used in tandem with Foucault's
pendulum,they could not have closen any other correlation.Maybe you
should drop the magnification exercise and join Miller in making a
better doorbell,something useful.
My astronomical ancestors make a mockery of everyone here, 5,200 years
ago,they could switch the light on using sunrise of the solstice -
http://www.iol.ie/~geniet/eng/newgrang.htm
There's home automation for you and it still can be enjoyed 5 200
years after they first created the effect,the oldest known building in
Western Europe and it shows knowledge of architecture,structural
engineering,astronomy and all those things required for a healthy
civilisation.Today none of you can enjoy the Western heliocentric
development of clocks for the purpose of determining location as an
extension of heliocentric reasoning.
Of course you need intelligence and an expansive nature to interpret
the works of my astronomical heritage,the other option does not bear
considering -
http://www.xs4all.nl/~adcs/Huygens/06/kort-E.html
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