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Re: Ballistic Theory and Telescope Mirrors

Subject: Re: Ballistic Theory and Telescope Mirrors
From: "Hexenmeister"
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:22:35 GMT
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
"Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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| Hexenmeister wrote:
| > "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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| > | Hexenmeister wrote:
| > | > "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message 
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| > |
| > | > | Whether or not you agree to the term "c" or prefer 299,792.5 km/s,
| > | > | you earlier agreed that light is emitted (reflected) from mirrors
| > | > | at constant velocity with respect to the mirror.
| > | >
| > | > No I didn't, you lying toad. You are quite mad.   off.
| > | > Androcles.
| > |
| > | Of course you did! I asked,
| > | > | > > | Do you or don't you
| > | > | > > | agree that emission of photons occurs with velocity c?
| > |
| > | and you responded
| > | > | > > Relative to the source, photons leave at a velocity of
| > | > | > > 299,792.5 kilometers per second, plus or minus 1.1
| > | > | > > meters per second
| > |
| > | You are obviously quite familiar with the notion that reflection
| > | represents the coherent absorption and re-emission of photons.
| >
| > I've heard of it, sure. I've heard Harry Potter slew a dragon, too.
| > Nonsense, of course.
| 
| OK. What is the mechanism behind reflection?
| 
| > | You are also quite familiar with the notion that radio waves set
| > | the electrons in an antenna into oscillation, and that oscillating
| > | electrons in an antenna re-emit radio waves, which radiate
| > | outwards at 299,792.5 km/s from the antenna.
| >
| > I never said that. Snell's law applies. You are quite mad.
| 
| Now THAT is a random statement if I ever heard one!!!!
| Explain how Snell's law applies to the emission of radio
| waves from a single antenna.

Make up your mind whether you are talking about emission!!!!,
diffraction!!!! or reflection!!!! Otherwise  !!!! off!!!!
Androcles.








| 
| > | You understand quite well that there is no essential difference
| > | in underlying mechanism between reflection from a diffraction
| > | grating versus reflection from a mirror.
| >
| > Don't be so  ing stupid, of course there is a difference.
| > X-rays and gamma rays go right through, IR goes around the outside.
| 
| Now THAT is yet another random statement!!!
| X-rays and gamma rays go right through a plate of glass
| whether the glass has been scribed with grating lines or
| is a flat mirror...
| 
| > | Given your demonstrated understanding of these facts, it is
| > | evident that in your version of emission theory, Hero's law of
| > | the equality of incident and reflected angles is invalid when the
| > | incoming light has velocity differing from 299,792.5 km/s,
| > | since the reflected light must have constant velocity with
| > | respect to the mirror of 299,792.5 km/s.
| >
| >
| > Bullshit. I told you reflection of c+v was -(c+v). I gotta quit using c...
| >  S+v = -(S+v)
| > S = 299,792.5 km/s.
| 
| I asked,
| > | > | > > | Do you or don't you
| > | > | > > | agree that emission of photons occurs with velocity c?
| > |
| and you responded
| > | > | > > Relative to the source, photons leave at a velocity of
| > | > | > > 299,792.5 kilometers per second, plus or minus 1.1
| > | > | > > meters per second
| 
| Why the flip-flop?
| What is the mechanism behind reflection????
| Do you REALLY believe that photons just "bounce" off
| of the surface? Why do they bounce?
| 
| > | This results in predictions that are contrary to known fact.
| >
| > Your interpretation is, certainly. You've got this crazy idea of absorption 
and
| > re-emission means reflection. It means nothing of the kind. Your eyeballs
| > don't glow, you idiot. Turn on a cooker hob so that it glows red.
| > Then turn it off again. Does it still glow red? Yes, it does, and then it 
fades.
| > It is still hot?  Don't put your hand on it, it is still radiating IR for 
the next
| > 5 minutes.
| > Try thinking for a change. Engage brain before opening mouth, parrot.
| > Reflection is absorption and re-emission my arse.
| 
| WHAT IS REFLECTION? HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?
| 
| > | You are condemned by your own words, Androcles.
| >
| > You are  ing good at telling me what I didn't say is wrong, aren't you?
| > If you weren't such an arrogant cunt you might've learned some physics
| > in your own kitchen.
| > Androcles.
| 
| WHAT IS REFLECTION? HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?
| You USED to know....
| 
| > Your
| > | version of emission theory predicts that reflecting telescope
| > | images of distant galaxies will be out of focus relative to
| > | images of nearby stars. 
| 
| Jerry
|

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