"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
> On 28 Feb 2006 01:49:05 -0800, "George Dishman" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Henri Wilson wrote:
>>> On 27 Feb 2006 05:17:33 -0800, "George Dishman"
>>> <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Let's settle on the same configution before we go any further.
>>I think that's a good idea. Comparing your
>>scenarios (1) and (3) would be simplest:
>>> 1) the gunner remains fixed.
>>> 3) he moves forward between shots but stops momentarily to shoot.
>>The energy imparted depends on the muzzle
>>speed only so is the same for both as is
>>the penetration into the target (to keep Jim
>>The time when any bullet hits the target is the
>>time when it was fired plus the distance from
>>the location where it was fired to the target
>>divided by the muzzle speed.
>>Hit rates are the inverse of times between
>>The time between hits is simply the time
>>between firings minus the reduction in travel
>>time from one bullet to the next. That in turn
>>is the distance he moves between shots in
>>case (3) divided by the muzzle speed.
>>I know there are other ways to do this (using
>>"wavelength" for instance) but can you see
>>any error in what I have said?
> Probably not...but it is much easier to simply accept that the distance
> bullets is less in 3) than in 1).
Why change time to wavelength only to change
it back to times? I don't think it is easier
but YMMV. However, that's beside the point,
what I was pointing out to Jim was what you
> It is reduced by the distance the gunner
> moves between shots.
The cause of the changed rate is that "the
gunner moves between shots.".
> In the target frame, bullet energy and speed is the same in both instances
Exactly, but Jim says the reason for the
increased rate is the increased energy. In
this counter-example the energy has not been
increased, that's what I am trying to get Jim
to think about.
> .... but
> arrival rate is higher in 3) than in 1) because of the shorter
No, it is higher because "the gunner moves
between shots.". The distance between the
rounds in flight is another effect, not the