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Re: Ballistic Theory and the Sagnac Experiment

Subject: Re: Ballistic Theory and the Sagnac Experiment
From: "George Dishman"
Date: 11 Mar 2006 14:19:37 -0800
Newsgroups: sci.astro, sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Hexenmeister wrote:
> "George Dishman" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1141998013.337852.323650@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hexenmeister wrote:
> >> "George Dishman" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:1141982182.030916.184630@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >> > jgreenfield@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> >> Hexenmeister wrote:
> >> >> > "jgreenfield@xxxxxxxxxxx" <jgreen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:1141707597.080011.317850@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > The animation is a fantasia.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Its not a fantasia, it is an accurate model.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >   http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lie.GIF
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Rifleman 4's bullet has travelled 300 pixels in the same time as
> >> >> > rifleman 1's bullet has travelled 80 pixels.
> >> >> > Therefore the speed of bullets is 30 pixels/time and 8 pixels/time,
> >> >> > and not 12 pixels/frame as Relf claimed.
> >> >> > That's the lie and fantasia, not the animation.
> >> >
> >> > I extracted two consecutive frames to check the speeds:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.georgedishman.f2s.com/Henri/frame_11_to_12.png
> >> >
> >> > The displacements match Jeff's values. I haven't checked
> >> > any more pairs (there are 93 frames in the gif) but the
> >> > speeds look constant by eye.
> >> >
> >> > George
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >> The speed of riflemen 3 doesn't look constant by my eye,
> >
> > Jeff wrote in
> > http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.astro/msg/a0cdfd044de5fd71
> >>
> >> ... the speeds of the bullets relative to the targets are:
> >          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>
> >> 1)  8 pixels per frame
> >> 2) 12 pixels per frame
> >> 3)  8 pixels per frame
> >> 4) 12 pixels per frame
> >
> > The speeds are of the bullets, not the riflemen.
>
>
> Hey moron, the bullets are in the gun most of the way,

Hey clueless, the rest of us are talking about
the speed of the bullets AFTER they have been
fired.

> travelling at 72 pixels per frame.

? You've definitely lost it.

> > Bullets from riflemen 1 and 3 move from pixel 109
> > to 117, a shift of 8 pixels in one frame, while the
> > bullets from riflemen 2 and 4 move from pixel 137
> > to 149 or 12 pixels in one frame. Those are exactly
> > the numbers Jeff gave so your accusation appears
> > to be incorrect.
>
> Bullshit.
>   http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lie.GIF

And which two frames was that made from?
You screwed up A, just apologise to Jeff.

George


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