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Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006

Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
From: "Rich"
Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:45:52 -0800
Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur
Pat O'Connell wrote:
> Rich wrote:
> > Mike wrote:
> >> You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
>
> > Take off the blinders, leftist dimwit.
>
> Stop the flamage, please.
>
> Sagan wrote about his time, when nuclear war seemed all too possible.
> His worry was that a nuclear war, because it kicks up so much dust into
> the stratosphere, would cool the climate to the point that we would find
> ourselves in an ice age, maybe a permanent one. Little was known about
> the greenhouse effect in those days. It's one of those theories we
> really don't want to test, though the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the
> Philippines cooled the climate for about a year afterwards. That's
> probably where the idea came from.
>
> I don't think that urging nuclear treaties was a "leftist plot." After
> all, George Bush Sr., who's not a leftist, negotiated them with Russia.
>

Neither do I, since it wasn't leftists who signed most of them.
What I dislike is the leftist propensity to over-dramatize things into
nonsense.
We were never close to a nuclear exchange with the Soviets.  You want
to
worry about nukes, worry about India and Pakistan since most
strategists realize
that is the major flashpoint.  But there are other examples of leftist
miscalculation regarding
World affairs.  Remember the Club of Rome?  Said in 1970 that we'd be
OUT of oil by the
early 1980s.  DDT was banned because of thinning bird eggshells.  The
result?  40 million Africans more than would have died because of an
explosion in the mosquito populations.
We banned CFCs when there was no credible evidence they posed any major
threat.
Result?  Increased food spoilage due to the inability of the Third
Worlders to afford modern,
CFC-free refrigerants cause the deaths of about 2 million more.
Now, we've got the lefty envirokooks braying about "global warming" and
what a "dire"
situation it is.  If it's so F---- DIRE, why do China and India
(projected to outproduced the
U.S. by six times in C02 production by 2025) get free pass when it
comes to implementation of contols on C02?  What good are any controls
of the West, given that scenario?


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