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"Inger E.(Norah)" <noninger_none.Johansson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Alan Crozier" <name1.name2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:04:39 GMT, "IE_Json"
> > > <inger_e.johansson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > >news:v95un2lb3rsttvsjnhdccnqrd0g83buh4g@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:37:01 +0100, "Peter Alaca"
> > > >> <p.alaca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:45:57 +0100, "Peter Alaca"
> > > >> >> <p.alaca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> > > >> >>>> "Peter Alaca" wrote:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>>> Geological probably outdated, and certainly not
> > > >> >>>>> about early medieval Frisia.
> > > >> >>>>> The Weser-Eider area was (Anglo-)Saxon.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>> I was thinking of the whole chain of islands as a
geographical
> > > >> >>>> entity. Of course, if you restrict the definition of
Frisia to
> > what
> > > >> >>>> is there now then of course you may be correct when you
write
> > "Both
> > > >> >>>> the modern islands and the ancient 'islands' were not
larger
> > than
> > > >> >>>> today and certainly not more habitable."
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> The string of islands is of course a geographical (better:
> > > >> >>> geophysical) entity, today streching from Den Helder
> > > >> >>> to Esbjerg, but it was and is not a cultural entity, and
> > > >> >>> that is what we are talking about here.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> That's what you were talking about but not what I was
talking
> > about -
> > > >> >> hence the confusion.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >That is the subject of the thread.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>> And again: what we call today the (West- East- and North-)
> > > >> >>> Frisian islands (the Wadden Islands), are not (only) the
> > > >> >>> Frisian Islands of the classical authors. They had a
different,
> > > >> >>> though valid, concept of islands.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I presume your comment referred to the modern definition.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I presume that is why I wrote "what we call today".
> > > >>
> > > >> Rather than continue pecking at each other, would it not be
more
> > > >> helpful if you make clear the boundaries of the area you are
> > referring
> > > >> to? Specifically is "what we call today" geographically the
same as
> > > >> "Eraly Medieval Frisia", the subject of this thread?
> > > >>
> > > >> Or are you referring to 'what we call today early Medieval
Frisia'
> > > >> and, if so, what are the boundaries of that area?
> > > >
> > > >Same as the normal definition, which includes the German and the
> > Danish
> > > >Frisian islands as well as the Dutch, are today:
> > >
> > > Inger,
> > >
> > > With great respect, you cannot possibly know what is in Peter
Alaca's
> > > mind when he refers to 'Medieval Frisia'.
> > > >
> > > >Northern of the Frisian islands can be seen along Denmark's
Jutland's
> > coast:
> > > >"Römö, som är sammanbundet med fastlandet via en 9 km lång
fördämning
> > och
> > > >ligger som en oas i Danmarks sydvästra hörn, är en av de 5
frisiska
> > öarna,
> > > >som ligger längs Sydjyllands västkust."
> > > >http://www.novasol.de/nov/752.nsf/0/208romo?opendocument
> > > >"Römö, ............. is one of the 5 Frisian islands, along the
South
> > > >Jutlandish westcoast"
> > > >
> > > >East Frisian islands along Germany's North Sea Coast:
> > >
> >
>http://www.tysklandguide.com/BRD/Delstater/Niedersachsen/nordsjokusten.
> > htm
> > > >"De frisiska öarna brukar delas in i de väst-, ost- och
nordfrisiska
> > öarna,
> > > >där de ostfrisiska är en del av Niedersachsen. Dessa är Borkum,
> > Memmert,
> > > >Juist, Norderney, Baltrum, Langeoog, Spiekeroog och Wangerooge"
> > > >
> > > >The Frisian islands usually are divided into the western, the
eastern
> > and
> > > >the northfrisian islands, where the East Frisian islands are a
part
> > of
> > > >Niedersachsen. These are Borkum, Memmert, Juist, Norderney,
Baltrum,
> > > >Langeoog, Spikeroog and Wangerooge".
> > > >
> > > >Peter A has been wrong in assuming that only the Dutch Frisian
> > islands are
> > > >called Frisian islands. Never been and probably never will be
among
> > > >Geographers, scholars as well as politians.
> > > >
> > > >more info including map where all three are marked:
> > > >http://www.rabbel.info/nordstrand.html
> > >
> > > That's a considerable advance. At least you seem to be
acknowledging
> > > the "Grote Manndränke" of 1362 which once you denied.
> >
> >
> > It seems that quite a lot happened in 1362. I searched the archives
> > wondering what you meant, but most of the references were to a
certain
> > stone in North America bearing that date. In the end I found what I
> > assume you are referring to. That was six years ago.
> >
> > Anyway, just because Inger pointed to a website yesterday, it does
not
> > mean that she agrees with everything stated there.
>
> Correct Alan,
> but when ever I find new facts related, I ask new questions to old
riddles
> as well as new questions to earlier analyzed written text.
On the subject of great floods, are you under water today?
Alan
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