Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@xxxxxxxxx > wrote:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:29:39 -0800, "D. Patterson"
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As for the claim that th Norse period in Greenland was warmer than
today, please see figure 2 in http://tinyurl.com/vn7w7, it wasn't.
The whole MOG 31 report can be downloaded from
As is so often the case, the tinyurl and pdf you provided as
citations fail to load. Since you have failed to provide the name of
the series for the volume and failed to indicate the particular text
and/or images and their relevance to the discussion even if the
volume could be found, your citations are meaningless and valueless
to the discussion. They certaintly contribute nothing whatsoever to
any claim by you in regard to such Norse journeys being "impossible"
The sites cited do load but the PDF files are large and DU Meter tells
me the download rates are consistently slow.
The figure Erik Hammerstadt referred to is a diagram which shows that
the current temperature is approximately 0.15 degrees C more than in c
The title of the figure describes it as
"The sequences of climatic and cultural events in Greenland
(climatic sequences adapted from Fredskild and BÃcher 2001:61)."
Yes, a reference problem there, probably a mix-up.
It is not in the bibliography. There is
- Riget, F. and BÃcher, J. 2001. The Fresh Water Environment.
In: Born, E.W. and BÃcher, J. (eds.). The Ecology of Greenland.
Ministry of Environment and Natural Resources. Ilinniusiorfik
- BÃcher, J. and Fredskild, B. 1993. Plant and arthropod remains
from the palaeo-Eskimo site on Qeqertasussuk, West Greenland.
Meddelelser om GrÃnland, Geoscience 30: 35 p.
but the pagenumber (61) does not fit.
I have not been able to discover the nature of "Fredskild and BÃcher
2001" but I have been able to establish that F & B work primarily with
No, Fredskild is a botanist and BÃcher an entomologist.
Apart from the question of the nature of the
adaptation of F & B's work, I would also question whether or not one
can safely rely on zoological proxies to establish the existence of
small temperature differences (0.15 degrees C) over a period of 8
Plants and insects are essential environmental indicators.
And the fact that a climatic sequence is taken from a
publication, does not mean that the sequence is based on
the study in that publication.