"Matt Giwer" <jull43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> Lars Wilson wrote:
>> "Matt Giwer" <jull43@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>Lars Wilson wrote:
> So far every bit of evidence from archaeology and history outside of the
> bible has shown the OT contains no history. The origin of the science of
> archaeology was recognizing it contains no history and that was well over
> a century ago. It is rather amazing, on the level of creationism, that so
> many uninformed and perhaps uneducated people are still lead by faith
> against all the evidence.
Hi Matt. I can see you are a non-Biblicalist. But actually as far as my
I don't need the Bible at all. You see, I can date the 1st of Akhenaton to
1386 BCE via the KTU 1.78 eclipse text. I can date the Assyrian eponym
event to 709BCE and thus Karkar in 799BCE an Shishak in 871BCE. Notice,
I've mentioned no imaginary Biblical characters! I can date the fall of
25-40 years after the reign of Amenhotep III. I can use the VAT4956 that
has double-dating to year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar to both 568BCE and 511BCE
to redate his reign to 437BCE. I can use the Nabon 18 eclipse reference and
now the Thales eclipse to confirm the 2nd year of Nabonidus to 479-478 BCE.
I can redate the the eclipse from the Peloponnesian War to 402BCE when
Plato was actually alive to help solve the "The Delian Problem" rather than
currently dated 431BCE, which was before he was born. I can prove from
Persepolis that Darius died just two years after he began to build there
son to finish the compound. I can prove from cryptic references in
Darius died at Marathon and was beheaded. I can prove that Xerxes went by
name of Artaxerxes even up to his 27th year and were thus the same king.
So frankly, I don't need the Bible or any Bible characters to correct the
timeline. I can vindicate Thales' prediction for a 478BCE eclipse during
reign of Nabonidus though! I can confirm the 763BCE eclipse event in the
Assyrian eponym would have never been dated in month three since its a month
two eclipse. I can redate the beginning of the Peloponnesian War to 403BCE
which has Socrates dying in 466BCE when so-called "Phaedo" was 18 years old,
the exact same age of Aristotle. Then I can show you all the references in
that proves he not only knew Socrates but admired and loved him since they
lovers. Now I didn't come up with that on my own through my vivid imaging,
found a reference for that in a docudrama book! So people know about these
and little selective academic circles, but I suppose the idea of a juicy
little ancient secret
is just too much fun to share with the world at this time. They'd prefer
in the dark and ignorant I guess.
So basically, I can correct the timeline archaeologially and astronomically
without the Bible
or the mention of any Bible characters, quite effectively.
So please, you go on believing that Plato was consulted to solve a
mathematical problem three
years before he was born as long as you need to. It won't bother me a bit.
In the meantime, I'm going to be trying to figure out how I can get academic
especially some FUNDING for discovering how Thales predicted that eclipse in
478BCE during the reign of "Labytenus"!
> And of course a book filled with events dependent upon magic and miracles
> is not worth any serious discussion. As the authors were willing to invent
> a god working miracles as critical to their history it is equally clear
> they would be even more willing to create characters and events and even
> an entire history.
I totally appreciate your position as a skeptic. But that's only because an
hasn't personally appeared to you. Don't underestimate God's way of
with doubters. You know, lots of people doubted Noah, but everybody was
a believers after it started raining. That's ALL that is missing. God
actively beyond the written word. That's ALL you're really after. God to
himself beyond the written words.
> Science has always won. The Bible was discounted long ago as even being in
> the running and in the matter of history, over a century ago.
Well, not any more. Again, the Jews and Catholics have played with the
and that has made a difference in the credibility. That can be corrected
there is far more credibility "scientifically" as far as history is
concerned all the way from
the Exodus in the 1st of Akhenaton, who did convert to Yawist monothesias
the ten plagues, through the Persian Period where Persepolis confirms the
Darius I after is sixth year. So it's not "quite" the same slam-dunk
dismissal it used
to be. Not for extreme Biblicalists. For meandering semi-Bliblicalists
news is pretty bad (i.e. Jehovah's witnesses whose chronology line is more
century askew by the time of the Exodus).
> And as their is no artifact of any biblical Solomon or biblical Israel
> there is nothing to date.
Hey... Valvuable artifacts don't survive. If trinkets from the time of
were considered valuable then they are in private collections. They are
to be discarded in trash heaps for archaeologists to find later on.
Solomon had a
lot of gold...I wonder why there is no evidenc of it around now?
> You believers appear to be dancing around something of your own invention
> but lord knows what it is.
I don't have to dance. The 763BCE eclipse occurs in month 2, not month 3.
It's misdated. End of story. That is simply based upon knowledge of the
pagan calendar dating practices. The Assyrian eponym list was a "civil"
record that recorded major events for each year. No other eclipse is
But if an eclipse was predicted and the nation was able to participate in
it would have been GLORIOUS! They would have wanted to remember that year.
That's what 709 BCE is about: Month 3, predicted eclipse. And it forms the
basis for the Thales prediction. He's vindicated now. This is NEW. The
renown expert in the field, Otto Neugebaur didn't even know about this.
discovery needs to be named after me and I need to get some money or a grant
from this discovery at some point. That's where this is! This is a MAJOR
discovery. But.... you have to use the actual original timeline, not the
revised timeline. A lot of people are ready for "conspiracy theories"
I used the C-word!!!)
But it says nothing about the mythical Moses, Joshua or Solomon.
I don't need Moses, Joshua or Solomon. Akhenaton conveted to an invisble
monotheistic god in the first year of his reign dated to 1386 BCE based upon
the KTU 1.78 astronomical text. That's "absoute dating." Coincidentally,
1386BCE is 69 jubilees from 1947. I'm pretty sure this is just a
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. The fact that 455BCE is 50
from 1947 is also just a freak coincidence. Purely trivia. Not worth
Hey. You can either keep up or read about it later.... Up to you.