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>> >> >> >> > Been away five days. On arriving home I found this
interesting
>> > url:
>> >> >> >> > http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/index.html
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I would be very glad to read more thoughts about it from
> members
>> > in
>> >> >> >> > groups.
>> >> >> >> > Sorry if I missed if someone rised the question before.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> After I showed the text of the so-called Gospel of Judas to
>> >> >> >> my
> mum
>> > she
>> >> >> > said
>> >> >> >> it was written by people in order to make money from copies
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> being
>> >> >> >> sold.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What was the profit margin on Gospel publishing back in 400
>> >> >> >> AD
?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > None what so ever. That type of Gospel would have been burnt
>> >> >> > by
>> >> >> > sight
>> >> > had
>> >> >> > any of the other Christian groups found it. And it's not from
400
> AD
>> >> > it's
>> >> >> > dated between 280 and 340 AD. Which would have made it even
less
>> > likely
>> >> >> > because in those days there were so many disputes in the
>> >> >> > Christian
>> >> > world.
>> >> >> > The funny thing is that there were so many Bishops in the
Western
>> >> >> > Church
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > those days.
>> >> >> > 342/343 AD at the Synod meeting in 19 bishops from the Western
> Roman
>> >> >> > Empire
>> >> >> > and 75 from the Eastern Church participated. Among them at
least
>> >> >> > 2
>> > from
>> >> >> > England.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And what better reason could there be for all of these sects and
>> > bishops
>> >> >> than to make money. Each sect would have its own mysteries and
>> >> >> everyone
>> >> >> would be expected to donate something in the collection plate
>> >> >> for
> them
>> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> >> revelled. Everyone got on the Christian money making bandwagon
>> >> >> by
>> >> > invention
>> >> >> their own variations and the traditional religions were squeezed
>> >> >> out
>> >> >> of
>> >> > the
>> >> >> market. Even today you have Scientologists and Moonies out after
>> > peoples
>> >> >> money.
>> >> >
>> >> > Had they lived 1000 years later, you probably would have been
right,
>> >> > BUT
>> >> > neither they did nor were money of importance to them.
>> >>
>> >> Of course money was important to them. Why would they ask for
>> >> donations
>> >> if
>> >> it wasn't. They were out to make a fast cesterci and that's what it
>> >> all
>> >> boils down too.
>> >
>> > Please provide evidence that the early Church bishops asked for
> donations
>> > of
>> > money and that they 'were out to make a fast cesterci'.
>>
>> There's that parable about Jesus asking the richer worshipers to
>> donate
> the
>> same percentage of their income as the poor ones i.e. all of it.
>>
>> Christianity was a profit driven enterprise. The more gospels were
> concocted
>> the more bucks there were to be made by drawing in new worshipers to
>> learn
>> the new mysteries that had been added. That's why Constantine demanded
it
> be
>> standardised to a single creed, to cut out the profiteers.
>
> Well you haven't provided any proof or 'evidence' what you provided is
> a
I have provided you the evidence in the bible itself. Why would a God
require money ?
> non-Christian person's assumption. Which I find a bit odd since you in
> other
> discussions haven't shown such a face. So please try to present any
> evidence from 2nd and 3rd century supporting the assumption presented
> by
> you
> above.
I have.
While the priests and church leaders were living a life of luxury paid
for
by the collection plate the ordinary worshipers were living in poverty
and
the more Gospels that were concocted the more money there was to make by
people coming to hear them being read. The proof of the existence of such
an
industry is given by the numerous references in antiquity of books like
the
Iliad and Herodotus being read aloud to an audience who made a donation
at
the end. It was no different to busking and the market had to be supplied
with new texts that people had not heard before so that the bards and
Christian preachers (the performers of these texts) could keep up their
standard of living. When Constantine brought this industry to a halt a
new
industry emerged, that of sermons and Church apologists.