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Re: 1418-1435's fishwar replayed today!!??

Subject: Re: 1418-1435's fishwar replayed today!!??
From: Philip Deitiker
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:18:02 GMT
Newsgroups: sci.archaeology, soc.history.medieval, soc.culture.nordic
Erik Hammerstad <egeha.is.all.you.need@xxxxxxxx> says  in
news:3lbtf6F123485U1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 

> Tom McDonald wrote:
> 
>>     Note this; Erik Hammerstad is the one replying to Inger
>>     (who replied 
>> to zolota):
>> 
>>> Have a look at
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.homestead.com/argum entsandfacts/files/ellesmere.htm
>> 
>>>
>>> Note that Canadian sovereignty over Baffin Island is stated as
>>> never being an issue. And also that as both the US and Denmark
>>> showed interest in Ellesmere Island around 1920, Canada had to
>>> demonstrate that its claim to sovereignty over it was "real".
>>> But importantly neither Denmark, nor the US, seems to have
>>> ever gone so far as to claiming sovereignty! 
>> 
>> 
>>     I tried the link, but it wouldn't work. The Wayback Machine
>>     even 
>> doesn't have it, saying that perhaps the owner requested it not
>> be archived or some such.
>> 
> 
> http://www.opinion-canada.ca/en/articles/article_94.html might
> be a good alternative to the now dead link. Note a Norwegian 
> explorer's claim at the end of the 19th century, and Denmark 
> declaring Ellesmere Island as international territory in 1919.
> 
> Today only Hans Island is disputed with both Canada and claiming
> it (but not the waters and fishing rights around it, that's 
> settled), regardless of past history. And just as for many other
> parts of the world, determination of the exact Exclusive
> Economic Zone (EEZ) boundary in agreeement with the UN Law of
> the Seas (UNOLS) remains, that needs mapping.

Just how many people live on Hans Island

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island

Hans Island (Greenlandic/Inuktitut: Tartupaluk, Danish: Hans Ø) is a 
small uninhabited barren knoll measuring 1.3 km² (0.5 mi²), located 
at approximately 80°49' N 66°28' W in the centre of the Kennedy 
Channel of Nares Strait?the strait that separates Ellesmere Island 
from Northern Greenland and connects Baffin Bay with the Lincoln Sea. 
Hans Island is the smallest of three islands located in Kennedy 
Channel; the others are Franklin Island and Crozier Island.
"

Where the hell has Alan been? lol.

"
The island is claimed by both Canada and Denmark. The dispute may 
turn into a test case on sovereignty claims along the Northwest 
Passage, a region that could become more important if climate change 
opens it up to more shipping.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Island

Question. What is the importance of arguing over an lifeless island 
whose only real value is if the climate warms to such a degree the 
polar ice cap melts such that international shipping will be 
traversing the north pole in the summer time? Alas a better solution 
is to sell it to McDonalds so they can commercialize it. They could 
have helicopter pilots dropping junk food onto passing ships. Even 
better dropping danish prostitutes and having them to make their way 
back on outboard power rubber dingy's. I can't think of too many 
other uses that are less Macabe. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Nares_strait_border_%28Kennedy_cha
nnel%29.png

(del) (cur) 06:02, 29 July 2005 . . Twthmoses (196934 bytes) (Nares 
strait border (approx.) Point 120-124. There is no border between 
point 122 and 123. ''Agreement between the Government of the Kingdom 
of Denmark and the Government of Canada relating to the Delimitation 
of the Continental Shelf between Greenla) 








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