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## Re: If Pimental is correct then corn should be about \$2.50 to \$2.70 a b

 Subject: Re: If Pimental is correct then corn should be about \$2.50 to \$2.70 a bushel; if Hosein then \$6.00 per bushel Re: takes 1.5 gallons gasoline to produce 1 gallon ethanol in modern agriculture Pooh Bear Mon, 19 Jun 2006 23:03:21 +0100 sci.agriculture, sci.energy, sci.chem
 ``` a_plutonium@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Bob Eld wrote: > > > That is simply not true, it's old data pushed by David Pimental and others. > > A more modern number shows a net positive energy balance of 167%. This > > includes all inputs and outputs including transportation, fertilizer, > > farming, distilation, etc. It results in a net energy INCREASE for corn > > ethanol of approxametely 33,000 BTU's per gallon. Source: Hosein, USDA, > > 2001. > > Markets weigh in on this debate, for which the Universities such as > Iowa State, Univ of Nebraska and all the other aggie schools have been > derelict. > > A bushel of corn yields about 2 gallons of ethanol. The price of a > gallon of diesel/gasoline is about \$3.00 a gallon. > > So, if Pimental is correct that we lose energy by petrol-farming to > make ethanol then the price of a bushel of corn would be about \$2.50 a > bushel. > > On the other hand, if Hosein is correct, then since in his estimation > of 167% that the price of a bushel of corn on today's commodity market > would be that of 2 X \$3.00 which equals \$6.00 per bushel. It has been a > very long time since I saw corn at 6 dollars a bushel. A key to your argument is the 2 gallons / bushel. Is this figure correct ? You've aslo ignored any subsidies. Graham ```
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