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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:55:31 -0500:
> I can receive my Yahoo mail with Opera.
> When I try to do the same with Hotmail it doesn't work.
Have you subscribed to (and/or enabled) POP+SMTP service
from both providers?
IIRC each company requires some paid plan to get these,
although some accounts may have come with a "free deal"
(even those offers may at some time have been withdrawn).
Gmail was the only one of the "big three," as of last time
that I checked, which offered POP+SMTP (and even IMAP)
access to every account, for no fee at all
(plus "get mail from other accounts" via POP,
which you also get for free from Yahoo).
Assuming you do have a Hotmail account which is supposed
to offer POP+SMTP, from where did you get the server names
and port numbers that you posted?
Merely guessing at these
by modifying a different provider's information
is not reliable.
It is most usual for anyone who has a valid account
to know where to get the provider's own instructions
for the setup of an email client.
Do you have such instructions, directly from Hotmail?
Is there a URL where others can also refer to them?
For web-based email accounts that do _not_ come with
POP access, clever people have written programs
which go to your web-based account using HTTP,
just as you may do manually with your web browser,
then "read" the mail (and even download attachments),
and finally provide, right in your own machine,
a private "POP server" that can feed the messages
to any local computer email client,
in terms that the client can understand.
One can "ask Leo" about them, for example:
http://ask-leo.com/what_are_the_pop3_and_smtp_settings_for_hotmail.html
http://ask-leo.com/what_are_msn_hotmails_pop3_and_smtp_settings_for_outlook_express.html
Or lots of other places (some info may be obsolete):
http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/mail-settings.html
The above references may have mentioned that Microsoft
(owner of Hotmail) did build into Outlook [Express] and Windows Mail
(its own products) various "private" means of downloading mail
from Hotmail and/or the newer "Windows Live,"
which non-Microsoft email clients have not bothered cloning;
I seem to recall that Microsoft may also have kept changing its mind
about terminating or re-instating some of these "proprietary" deals:
http://ask-leo.com/can_i_use_outlook_express_or_outlook_to_access_my_hotmail_account.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/apr/24/microsoft.email
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/04/18/microsoft-to-kill-hotmail-outlook-express-support/
But wait -- temporary reprieve?:
http://www.betanews.com/article/Microsoft_extends_the_lifespan_of_Outlook_Express_Hotmail_anyway/1210091587
The New York Times has just called me,
to scold that all this is "more news than is fit to print";
I guess I've been on the wrong track, always having thought
that it was "All the news that fits, we print" :)
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