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On Jul 30, 1:47 am, Andreas Eder <andreas_e...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> HiXah,
>
> >>>>> "Xah" ==Xah <xah...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> Xah> On Jul 29, 3:25 pm, Andreas Eder <andreas_e...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> HiXah,
> >>
> >> >>>>> "Xah" ==Xah <xah...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >>
> Xah> I don't see my suggestion for emacs to adapt the “Alt+‹key›” notation
> Xah> should be classified as a “feature”. Between Feature and Bug, i'd say
> Xah> it's a bug, if forced.
> >>
> Xah> Remember, in my article
> >>
> Xah> “Emacs's M-‹key› Notation vs Alt+‹key› Notation”
> Xah>http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_meta_key.html
> >>
> Xah> The main reasons i gave are:
> >>
> Xah> • Universally understood
> Xah> • Identical To Key's Label
> Xah> • Meta is Alt in practice
> Xah> • Keyboards don't have Meta key today
> >>
> >> But this just plain wrong! My Alt key does *not* generate Meta but
> >> Alt (what a surprise) and I have a different key that generates
> >> Meta. Meta is not Alt, not even in practice.
>
> Xah> Did you customize your emacs?
>
> No, that hasn't got anything to do with emacs. It is a question of
> keyboard drivers and X11 keymaps. I did not change anything
> related to keys in emacs.
> I even have super and Hyper keys by the way.
>
> Xah> My argument is applied to default emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and
> Xah> Linux...
>
> Xah> Also, what keyboard and OS are you on?
> It is a cherry linux keyboard and the OS is FreeBSD.
> But as I already said, it hasn't got anything to do with that. It
> is merely a question of setting up the right keyboard drivers and
> layouts and you have your keys as you like them in any application
> not just emacs.
Ok. So you didn't customize emacs but you did customize your OS?
among computer keyboard users, those who has customized their
keymappings is perhaps less that 0.001%. If we narrow it down to
professional programers, it's still perhaps less than 0.01%.
In anycase, regardless what emacs uses as its shortcut notation, your
personal customization will still work.
I too, have extensive keyboard customization, both at OS level and
emacs level. I use Apple's computer running OSX, with a Microsoft's PC
keyboard. The Alt key on my keyboard is actually Mac's Cmd. The
WindowKey is actually the Opt/Alt key.
That's just my customization. I can't use it to argue that Alt is not
Alt.
Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/
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