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Re: [GAAAUP] University System of Georgia Faculty Council

Subject: Re: [GAAAUP] University System of Georgia Faculty Council
From: " Donald R. Wagner"
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:11:54 -0500
Onward and upward...Tom and Dennis, two youngsters like me, leading us on to
glory.  Yes, it will, yes it will....we will see.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Keene [mailto:tkeene@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:57 PM
To: hhudson@xxxxxxx; dmarks@xxxxxxxxxxxx; dwagner@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: gaaaup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [GAAAUP] University System of Georgia Faculty Council

On our campus the creation of a Faculty Senate did not make AAUP less
influential; it created a vehicle for us to do more.  We encouraged AAUP
members to run for the Senate and once there to stand for leadership
positions.   It worked.  In addition, the AAUP chapter itself continues
to play a role -  as a kind of Brookings Institution, suggesting issues
and policies for the Senate's attention.   A number of these, including
some big ones, have become university policy. The Senate, in other
words, becomes a way to legitimize and give standing to arguments we
would otherwise have to make from the outside.  

In terms of membership, being seen to be effective advocates, and
providing Senate leadership, has contributed to a growth in our local
membership. 

I don't see why that approach cannot work at the System level as well. 
We just have to start at the local level, to elect AAUP members and
fellow travelers to our campus Senates, and through them to the USG
Faculty Council.  Then we pepper the System Faculty Council with
resolutions and arguments that reflect faculty needs and interests - as
well as those of the institutions and communities we serve. 

Tom Keene
AAUP@KSU


>>> " Donald R. Wagner" <dwagner@xxxxxxxxxx> 03/26 2:08 PM >>>
If you measure success by policy positions, you are correct Dennis. 
What
incentive is there for faculty members to join AAUP once this state
wide
Council goes into effect?  What happens when there are policy
differences
between this council and AAUP as there surely will be, especially on
close
calls?  Who will the BOR listen to then?  What do you think will come
of our
depleting membership?  Tell me how this helps any of these? 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Marks [mailto:dmarks@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:29 PM
To: 'Donald R. Wagner'; hhudson@xxxxxxx 
Cc: 'GAAAUP Listserve'
Subject: RE: [GAAAUP] University System of Georgia Faculty Council

AAUP still has a very vital role to play in the University System with
a
system-wide Faculty Council, just as it does on campuses with faculty
senates. The success of the Faculty Council will depend on how well it
embodies AAUP principles. 

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: gaaaup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:gaaaup-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald R.
Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:43 PM
To: hhudson@xxxxxxx 
Cc: 'GAAAUP Listserve'
Subject: [GAAAUP] University System of Georgia Faculty Council

The end of the AAUP as far as a faculty voice in the USG.  See below. 


The following message is being sent to you on behalf of Executive Vice
Chancellor Susan Herbst.
---------------------------------------------------------------

Dear Presidents and Provosts:

Last week a group of faculty leaders across institutions agreed to
create
the University System of Georgia Faculty Council. They are working on
by-laws that mirror our Staff council and will be supported by
Assistant
Vice Chancellor for Faculty Affairs Linda Noble.  The group is
currently
chaired by Professor Russell Porter of Clayton State University.

Please contact me or Linda if you have any questions.

Best,

Susan

--
Susan Herbst
Executive Vice Chancellor and
      Chief Academic Officer
University System of Georgia

Professor of Public Policy
Georgia Tech




--
Melinda Spencer
Chief of Staff
Office of Academic Affairs
6003 Trinity-Washington Building
270 Washington Street SW
Atlanta, GA 30334


-- 



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