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RE: [Ecrit] What is anuninitializeddevice- draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03

Subject: RE: [Ecrit] What is anuninitializeddevice- draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03
From: "Brian Rosen"
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:46:58 -0500
That dices and slices the problem in many ways.  A simple term is needed for 
the big picture.

Brian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:Hannes.Tschofenig@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 4:26 AM
> To: Brian Rosen
> Cc: 'GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART)'; 'Dawson, Martin'; 'Cullen Jennings';
> 'ECRIT'
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] What is anuninitializeddevice- draft-ietf-ecrit-
> phonebcp-03
> 
> There is terminology proposals in a separate document.
> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/ecrit/draft-schulzrinne-ecrit-unauthenticated-
> access-01.txt
> 
> This terminology was discussed with Wimax Forum members.
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
> 
> Brian Rosen wrote:
> > Doesn't improve things from my point of view.  "Authorization" is
> slightly better in formal terms, but I think that gets confused with
> mechanisms (crypto, ...).
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART) [mailto:sgoldman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:33 PM
> >> To: Brian Rosen; Dawson, Martin; Cullen Jennings
> >> Cc: ECRIT
> >> Subject: RE: [Ecrit] What is anuninitializeddevice- draft-ietf-ecrit-
> >> phonebcp-03
> >>
> >> Brian,
> >>
> >> Would the definition be better if "permission" were changed to
> >> "arrangement"?
> >>
> >> Stuart Goldman
> >> Alcatel-Lucent
> >> sgoldman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> +1 602 493 8438
> >> ï please save a tree by not printing this e-mail.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Brian Rosen [mailto:br@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:29 AM
> >> To: 'Dawson, Martin'; 'Cullen Jennings'
> >> Cc: 'ECRIT'
> >> Subject: RE: [Ecrit] What is anuninitializeddevice- draft-ietf-ecrit-
> >> phonebcp-03
> >>
> >> Yeah, slight reword.
> >>
> >> An uninitialized device does not have permission to use the access
> and/or
> >> calling network but local regulation requires the access and calling
> >> networks to grant such permission for the sole purpose of making
> emergency
> >> calls.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Dawson, Martin [mailto:Martin.Dawson@xxxxxxxxxx]
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:34 AM
> >>> To: Cullen Jennings; Brian Rosen
> >>> Cc: ECRIT
> >>> Subject: RE: [Ecrit] What is an uninitializeddevice- draft-ietf-ecrit-
> >>> phonebcp-03
> >>>
> >>> Does it actually scan?
> >>>
> >>> Was the intent to say that the *access network* is required to permit
> >>> such a device to have access for the purpose of making emergency
> calls?
> >>>
> >>> It reads as if it's the device that has the requirement upon it...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@xxxxxxxxx]
> >>> Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 4:31 PM
> >>> To: Brian Rosen
> >>> Cc: ECRIT
> >>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] What is an uninitializeddevice-
> >>> draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-03
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:09 PM, Brian Rosen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> An unitialized device does not have permission to use the access
> >>>> and/or
> >>>> calling network, but is required, by regulation to permit such
> >>>> access for
> >>>> the sole purpose of making emergency calls.
> >>>>
> >>> I like that definition. Cullen <with my individual contributor hat on>
> >>>
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