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Re: The problems in comp.lang.c

Subject: Re: The problems in comp.lang.c
From: "Jeff P. Bailey"
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:47:50 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c


On 27/3/2008 11:05, Richard Heathfield wrote:
Jeff P. Bailey said:
then the onus is on you to be able to support your attacks with evidence


I do. The fact that you haven't seen such evidence merely suggests that you haven't been here very long and haven't bothered to read the archives. So - let me give you a few random examples, to save you the trouble of finding one for yourself. Now please understand that I have *other stuff* to do. I don't mind backing up my statements, but I'm not going to spend the rest of the day pulling out dozens of examples. If you want more than I've given here, find them yourself. They are certainly there to find.

OK... let's see.

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jn: an implicit cast from signed to unsigned is done,
RH: There is no such thing as an implicit cast. Casts are explicit conversions.

RH: Unsigned types don't overflow.
jn: This is nonsense.
RH: No, it isn't.

The first case is pure word games; in the second, you are obviously arguing at cross purposes.

<_I2dnU6QSrRkFwzYnZ2dnUVZ8tDinZ2d@xxxxxx>

A discussion of whether the English word "width" is a good one to describe specifying printf() precision. Word games!

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jn: Consider int i = 38700;
RH: Why? It's not guaranteed to work. Instead, consider:
long int i = 38700;
which *is* guaranteed to work.

This is completely disingenuous on Mr Heathfield's part, given that jacob's next lines in his original post show that the whole point of his example is that he knows it isn't guaranteed to work:

jn: If you do not care about int size you will never know that this will not work in 16 bit implementations, or (worst) i will be initialized to something completely different.

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More word games on whether "Technical reports" and "Standards" are the same thing.


In summary, I find your evidence wafer thin. Only one of the examples shows definite dishonesty on your part, but all of the others show every sign of being a deliberate attempt on your part to misconstrue what jacob has said for the purposes of presenting him in a negative light.

Your examples have only confirmed my belief that you have a personal agenda to undermine him.

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