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Re: The problems in comp.lang.c

Subject: Re: The problems in comp.lang.c
From: "Jeff P. Bailey"
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:13:10 +0000
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c


On 25/3/2008 18:20, Ed Prochak wrote:
On Mar 25, 10:04 am, Richard <de...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ed Prochak <edproc...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Mar 24, 5:00 am, "Jeff P. Bailey" <nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 23/3/2008 23:57, Richard Heathfield wrote:

jacob navia said:

Richard Heathfield wrote:

[snip]

Likewise, I assure you. But I think we differ over who we think the
morons are. If you don't like my articles, why not killfile me?

I would say the same. Good advice. You could use it yourself and
stop answering my posts.

Since it is in your commercial interest to have as few people as possible
pointing out your misunderstandings, blunders, and product plugs, your
response does not surprise me at all. It may surprise *you*, however, to
discover that I actually reply to relatively few of your articles. (It may
surprise others, too.)

This is the sort of thing I was talking about - a pointlessly negative
post. Every article of jacob's I've read has been well-informed and
useful - and if his posts put C in its wider context, instead of being
narrowly focussed on minor details, then so much the better!

In a discussion thread on topicality,
Navia calls Heathfield's views "stupid" and "bullshit"
Heathfield says Navia's posts contain "misunderstandings, blunders,
and product plugs"
and you say Heathfield's comment was "pointlessly negative"?

Talk about cherry picking your examples.


I selected comments from this thread. How is that cherry picking? I
did not go searching for especially bad posts from Jacob Navia, just
ones in this discussion.

 I only wondered why  Jeff P. Bailey found Richard H's posts
apparently so negative, but Jacob N's were not. Or was it Jacob is
pointedly negative? or pointlessly positive?  If he has some
justification for the apparent imbalance between Jacob N and Richard H
it may be interesting to see. If he does not, then my post pointed out
what may be a false impression on his part. Either way one of us will
learn something. So let's see what Mr Bailey has to say.

I've only seen a small cross-section of what seems to be a long and acrimonious posting history between these two, but the picture from what I've seen is of jacob navia posting interesting articles likely to be of wide interest to new C programmers, while he is roundly condemned for this by everyone for being off-topic.

Mr Heathfield doesn't content himself with saying jacob's posts are off-topic, but also adds personal insults to the effect that jacob is incompetent at C. These accusations are quite implausible given that jacob has authored a successful C compiler, and I can't blame jacob for getting irritated by it.

Of course, as I said, I'm willing to believe that I haven't seen the whole picture in this.

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