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Re: [apnic-talk] Election Reforms

Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Election Reforms
From: Paul Wilson
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:36:34 +1000
Dear Rajesh, and all,

During its monthly meeting yesterday, the APNIC EC considered this matter; 
and asked me to provide certain further details regarding the proxy and 
voting records of the last EC election.


1. Acceptance of proxies in Kuala Lumpur

The EC decision on this matter, of 4 March 2010, is minuted and available 
on the APNIC website at this location:

http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/organization/structure/apnic-executive-council/ec-minutes

To quote from these minutes:

> The EC noted that only one objection was received, and that only one
> member organization appeared to have misunderstood the deadline as
> announced. The EC further noted that the total number of otherwise valid
> votes involved was approximately 46, being the votes of 6 members.
>
> The EC reviewed the staff decision to reject the proxies lodged after 3
> March 2010 09:00 UTC+8.
>
> Using the electronic vote procedure, the EC confirmed the decision to
> reject all proxies lodged after 3 March 2010 9:00 UTC+8. The Executive
> Secretary recorded 4 votes in favour of this decision, and 4 abstentions.
> The following EC members abstained from the vote: Akinori Maemura,
> Che-Hoo Cheng, Ma Yan, and Paul Wilson.


2. Record of votes cast in Kuala Lumpur

According to normal practice, the public announcement of the election 
result in KL included only the successful candidates, this being a measure 
employed to "save face" for unsuccessful candidates.  However in its 
decision yesterday, the EC further directed me to reveal the total votes 
received by all candidates, as recorded by the scrutineers of the election.

The complete voting record from the election was as follows:

> Ma Yan            1253
> Vinh Ngo           279
> Maemura Akinori   1523
> Ravi Shanker       750
> Che-Hoo Cheng     1444
> Jonny Martin       623



Additionally I would remind you that during its meeting of 10 March (whose 
minutes are also available at the above URL), the EC resolved to commission 
an independent inquiry into the events of the last election, and related 
matters, which would produce a report before the next APNIC meeting (see 
agenda item 3 from that meeting).   This inquiry is now underway.


With regards,


Paul Wilson
Director General.




--On 12 June 2010 10:19:06 PM +0530 Rajesh Chharia <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Geoff,
>
> While I appreciate the initiative to seek recommendations for conducting
> future EC elections, it would be pertinent for the Community to know the
> background of the last APNIC EC elections (KL).
>
> It all started with wrong timelines for elections mentioned on the website
> and my personal request to DG EC to correct the same as many members
> had reposed faith in me to get their proxy votes registered.
>
> I am pasting in trailing mail all the mails exchanged on March 3rd & 4th
> which led to our having lost faith in the process. However, my
> co-community
> members didn't support till they also faced a challenge from the vested
> quarter
> when they proposed to observe the process of counting.
>
> I must appreciate that you as Secretary after getting satisfied on
> observer's legitimacy as non- voting member, duly supported the decision.
> It was also gracious on part of the observer to withdraw from the counting
> process.
>
> I need to acknowledge here that the matured community didn't react
> negatively and didn't ever expose the real abovesaid issue.  Rather, they
> proposed to correct it by moving the motion on election reforms within
> APNIC
> community. Their endurance should be praised that despite being alleged
> for
> all kind of reasons for proposing reforms, they didn't retaliate and today
> when community has started seeing the view point, this panel proposal
> comes
> from your office.
>
> I, as an optimist, would like to see the brighter side of this
> thought/move
> and suggest that the four points regarding election reforms should also
> be a
> part of this move. Pt. 1, about  an "independent body" (not comprising of
> ECs) to conduct the EC election can be viewed as this "Election Panel" for
> conducting elections also in future.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Rajesh Chharia
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Executive
> Secretary
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 8:05 AM
> To: apnic-talk
> Subject: [apnic-talk] APNIC EC Election Review Panel
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> APNIC EC Election Review Panel
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
> The Executive Council of APNIC has recently established an independent
> Election Review Panel. This has been done in order to examine this topic
> with an independent and neutral perspective.
>
> The members of the review panel are:
>
>    - Adiel Akplogan
>    - Save Vocea
>    - Philip Smith
>
> The EC has appointed each of these individuals because they are well-known
> members of the APNIC community who were present at the APNIC
> 29 Members Meeting, they are not associated with an organizational Member
> of
> APNIC, and they did not take part in the Executive Council election
> process
> in any way.
>
> The brief of this Panel is to prepare a factual report of the events of
> the
> EC election in March 2010 and consider the following questions:
>
>    1. Were the election procedures followed?
>
>    2. Was the integrity of the election impaired in any manner? If
>       so, how?
>
>    3. To provide recommendations as to how the conduct of the EC
>       election process could be improved, as appropriate.
>
> The purpose of this notice is to request community input to the review
> panel, addressing the questions being considered by the panel.
>
> Please address your response to this call for community input to:
>
>    [email protected]
>
> We would appreciate it if you could ensure that you submit your response
> before Monday, 5 July 2010.
>
> The Election Review Panel will review the responses received from this
> community input, the video recording of the meeting and the associated
> transcripts, and the relevant APNIC corporate documents as part of its
> brief. The Election Review Panel will submit its report to the APNIC
> Executive Council.
>
>
> Geoff Huston
> Secretary to the APNIC Election Review Panel
>
> On behalf of the Election Review Panel:
> Adiel Akplogan, Save Vocea and Philip Smith
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Geoff Houston                                 [email protected]
> Secretary to the APNIC EC
> Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC)   Tel: +61 7 3858 3100
> PO Box 2131 Milton, QLD 4064 Australia            Fax: +61 7 3858 3199
> Level 1, 33 Park Road, Milton, QLD                http://www.apnic.net
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>
> Mails exchanged on KL election issue:
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>
> From: Paul Wilson <[email protected]>
> Date: 4 March 2010 10:10:50 AM GMT+05:30
> To: Rajesh Chharia <[email protected]>
> Cc: Geoff Huston <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Issue in Deadline
>
>
> Dear Rajesh
>
> I must convey to you the EC decision on this matter.
>
> The APNIC EC has considered this question and decided that it is not
> possible to extend the deadline for accepting proxy nominations, which
> was established as per the announcement below.  The reason is that such
> an extension would disadvantage candidates and supporters who correctly
> understood the deadline and ceased seeking proxy votes from that time
> onwards.
>
> I regret that the APNIC EC was not able to accommodate your request.
>
> With best regards,
>
> Paul Wilson.
>
> Cc: Geoff Huston, Executive Secretary, APNIC EC
>
>
>
>
> --On 3 March 2010 2:44:49 PM +0530 Rajesh Chharia <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Paul,
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> I appreciate your position.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am also willing to listen to any specialist who can elaborate the
>
>
> message of time line on the website. My concern is that how 12 people
>
>
> (esteemed APNIC members) other than me can misunderstand the message,
>
>
> which is explicitly referring to 9.00 UTC +8 (KL Time).
>
>
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>
>
> I am sure EC would be considerate to consider atleast 12 Proxies
>
>
> forwarded before the confusion begun.
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Thanking you and very sorry for any botheration.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Rajesh Chharia
>
>
> +9198110 38188
>
>
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>
> On 03-Mar-10, at 2:21 PM, Paul Wilson wrote:
>
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>
> Hi Rajesh
>
>
>
>
>
> The deadline as announced below was intended to be read as 9am today, KL
>
>
> time.
>
>
>
>
>
> I take it that you understood the announcement to mean a different local
>
>
> time here in KL, and in this case I am very sorry about any ambiguity.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you would please kindly explain your interpretation of the timezone,
>
>
> then I will certainly report the matter to the APNIC EC and ask them for
>
>
> a extension of the deadline.
>
>
>
>
>
> Please understand that this is not a decision that I or Secretariat staff
>
>
> can make.
>
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>
>
> Paul.
>
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>
>
> From: Rajesh Chharia [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: Paul Wilson
> Cc: Vivek Nigam; [email protected]; N. Ravi Shanker; Naresh Ajwani;
> Sunny Srinvas Chendi
> Subject: Issue in Deadline
>
> Dear Paul,
>
>
>
> As per the information received just now saying that all the proxies
> which I had submitted today well before 17.00 Hours KL time is being
> rejected saying that it had crossed DEAD LINE.
>
>
>
> Please refer to the guideline as mentioned on the web site it is as under:
>
>
>
> Proxy voting
>
> Only Corporate Contacts can appoint a proxy to vote at the meeting. Any
> person may be authorized as a proxy for an APNIC Member by the Memberâs
> Corporate Contact.
>
> Proxy voting closes on 3 March 2010 at 09:00 UTC+8 (KL time)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Please guide accordingly as w have more proxies to get registered well
> before deadline time..
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Rajesh Chharia
>
> +9198110 38188
>
>
>
> President
>
> ISPAI (Internet Service Providers Association of India)
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>
> CJ Online Private Limited



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Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                      <[email protected]>
http://www.apnic.net                                     +61 7 3858 3100
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