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Re: [apnic-talk] Elections

Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections
From: "Naresh Ajwani"
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:47:25 +0530

Dear Matthew,

 

I have broght three broad issues of discussion vide my next mail.

 

Regards and best wishes

 

Naresh Ajwani

 

From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 09 March 2010 13:45
To: Naresh Ajwani
Cc: Aadit Shrestha; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections

 

Hi Naresh,

You don't seem to have responded to the questions in my email.

What exactly are you asserting is the problem?

 

You seem to be asserting that there is an issue with the EC but you don't seem to be actually saying what you think the issue is.

 

MMC

 

On 09/03/2010, at 6:30 PM, Naresh Ajwani wrote:



Dear Matthew,

 

The proposed reforms stand for all 56 countries and my last mail-point 2 i.e Voting Pattern needs a review; Please think from the Internet perspective-it fills up the divide. Let’s attempt to change and give all inclusive approach.

 

Regards and best wishes

 

Naresh Ajwani

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft
Sent: 09 March 2010 10:57
To: Aadit Shrestha
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections

 

 

On 09/03/2010, at 3:02 PM, Aadit Shrestha wrote:




Dear all,

How about having 1 rotating seat for economies like Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal and others who control very small voting rights, and who have never had a member elected and cannot do so in the foreseeable future with the same regulations.

 

There's ~56 countries which are in the APNIC RIR "zone".  I count 9 (Japan, Australia, Korea, India, China, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Thailand) that have had members from their countries elected to the board.

 

 

The seat could go on a round robin basis on pure consensus. 

 

One thing missing from the table of WHO got elected is who has run for election.   Of the nations you mention above have any of them attempted to gain a position on the EC and been unable?  If they were elected to the EC through a change of policy what would you assert the difference would be as far as APNIC is run and resources allocated?   Especially as my understanding that the policies behind resource allocation etc are set by members voting by show of hands at the meetings not by the EC in private.   

 

There seems to be a number of people pushing the idea that somehow some nations are favoured over others at APNIC and that somehow the nations with smaller voting rights are "missing out".   Is this really the case?

 

Is it a language issue or a cultural issue?   Is the issue that some people assume it's harder for them than others or that it's harder because they don't do it that often?   The company I work for does quite a bit of work to do our allocations  especially now we have to justify some historic space.  

 

Is the actual issue education and maybe some help/mentoring from others?  eg.  maybe some exchange of ideas between members in different parts of the region might actually help those who don't interact with APNIC as often for allocation get some help from those who do or have less cultural/language issues?   

 

Regards,

Matthew   

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