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Re: [apnic-talk] Elections (Aadit Shrestha)

Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections Aadit Shrestha
From: Brajesh Jain
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:07:27 +0530
Dear Aadit,

I am extremely heartened to see your response.

Hope APNIC community would take a note of this and Acknowledge.

With regards

Brajesh C Jain
Chair
ISOC Delhi Chapter
 

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:32:36 +0700
From: Aadit Shrestha <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections
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Dear all,How about having 1 rotating seat for economies like Bangladesh,
Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal and others who control very small voting
rights, and who have never had a member elected and cannot do so in the
foreseeable future with the same regulations.
The seat could go on a round robin basis on pure consensus.
Just a thought. Aadit


From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:40:09 +0530
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections




















Dear Maemura San,



Hi,



Certainly, I wud clarify the expression in
due course of discussions and you are right it's about the composition of EC
because of voting pattern/stalk.



In my opinion, ?Internet is the
leveller? but the table and the process of Elections are distinctively
dividing the region- I may be wrong in assuming the same but really dont
know
that how Bangladesh, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and many such countries can get the
representation in current EC structure.



I also don?t know that how can we check
a situation like that as "Security Council" if 4 EC members from 3
countries of the same belt i.e. ?majority? decides to block, say
for example some country wants to have NIR.



Concerns are more on the election process but
let other members from the Talk Group also have a look at the table and
roles
and obligations of EC.






  Year



  EC1



  EC2



  EC4



  EC5



  EC3



  EC6



  EC7



  EC8





  1998



  Toru Takahashi ,

  Japan



  Geoff Huston,

  Australia



  Xing Li,

  China



  Srisakdi Charmonman,

  Thailand



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong













  1999



  Toru Takahashi ,

  Japan



  Oh Kwang Sok,

  Korea



  Xing Li,

  China



  Tommi Chen,

  Malaysia



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Geoff Huston,

  Australia









  2000



  Kazunori Konishi,

  Japan



  Oh Kwang Sok,

  Korea



  Xing Li,

  China



  Tommi Chen,

  Malaysia



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Geoff Huston,

  Australia









  2001



  MAEMURA Akinori,

  Japan



  Byung-Kyu Kim,

   Korea



  Xing Li,

  China



  Qian Hualin,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Geoff Huston,

  Australia









  2002



  MAEMURA Akinori,

  Japan



  Byung-Kyu Kim,

   Korea



  Xing Li,

  China



  Qian Hualin,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Geoff Huston,

  Australia









  2003



  MAEMURA Akinori ,

  Japan



  Yong Wan Ju,

  Korea



  Qian Hualin,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Geoff Huston,

  Australia









  2004



  MAEMURA Akinori ,

  Japan



  Yong Wan Ju,

  Korea



  Qian Hualin,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Vinh Ngo,

  Australia









  2005



  MAEMURA Akinori ,

  Japan



  Moo-Ho Billy Cheon,

  Korea



  Qian Hualin,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Vinh Ngo,

  Australia









  2006



  MAEMURA Akinori ,

  Japan



  Moo-Ho Billy Cheon,

  Korea



  Qian Hualin,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Vinh Ngo,

  Australia









  2007



  MAEMURA Akinori ,

   Japan



  Kusumba Sridhar,

  India



  Wei Mao,

  China



  Vinh Ngo,

  Australia



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Ming-Cheng
  Liang,

  Taiwan



  Paul Wilson,

  Australia





  2008



  MAEMURA Akinori,

  Japan



  Kusumba Sridhar,

  India



  Wei Mao,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  Ming-Cheng
  Liang,

  Taiwan



  Paul Wilson,

  Australia





  2009



  MAEMURA Akinori,

  Japan



  Hyun-Joon Kwon,

  Korea



  Jian Zhang,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  James Spenceley,

  Australia



  Paul Wilson,

  Australia





  2010



  MAEMURA Akinori,

  Japan



  Hyun-Joon Kwon,

  Korea



  Jian Zhang,

  China



  Ma Yan,

  China



  Che-Hoo
  Cheng,

  Hong Kong



  Kuo-Wei
  Wu,

  Taiwan



  James Spenceley,

  Australia



  Paul Wilson,

  Australia









Regards and best wishes,



Naresh Ajwani





-----Original
Message-----

From: MAEMURA Akinori [mailto:[email protected]]

Sent: 09 March 2010 08:42

To: [email protected]; [email protected]

Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Elections



Dear
Naresh,



|| The
table is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which, coupled

|| with
certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in

||
understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the
esteemed

||
APNIC-TALK group:



Here I
found a strong expression "visibly glaring aspects"

and it
seems to be of the line-up of members of the Executive

Council
since its beginning.





What do you
try to mean?





I agree
whatever concern can be a start of good discussion.

I really
encourage apnic-talk for an active discussion.







A tiny
point is that some of what you excerpted are not what

by-law
provides, but shown in

http://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/organization/structure/apnic-executive-coun
cil/EC-roles-and-obligations
,

which the
EC must comply as well, though.





Regards,

MAEMURA
Akinori, a current EC member







In message
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   "[apnic-talk] Elections"

   ""Naresh Ajwani"
<[email protected]>" wrote:



|

|

| Dear All,

|

| On the
basis of my association and experience during the last few years, I

|
appreciate and respect the processes and bottom up approach being followed
at

| APNIC and
have been strongly advocating the same at various forums. In the same

| spirit, I
am confident that the call made for election reforms, at the recently

| held meet
at KL, would also be looked into with a positive and all inclusive

|
manner.

|

| Before
any reforms are undertaken, one needs to understand the past scenario and

| the
composition of EC (given below) which can be a good starting point:

|

|

| Year

| EC1

| EC2

| EC4

| EC5

| EC3

| EC6

| EC7

| EC8

|

| 1998

| Toru
Takahashi ,

| Japan

| Geoff
Huston,

| Australia

| Xing Li,

| China

| Srisakdi
Charmonman,

| Thailand

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

|

|

| 1999

| Toru
Takahashi ,

| Japan

| Oh Kwang
Sok,

| Korea

| Xing Li,

| China

| Tommi
Chen,

| Malaysia

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Geoff
Huston,

| Australia

|

|

| 2000

| Kazunori
Konishi,

| Japan

| Oh Kwang
Sok,

| Korea

| Xing Li,

| China

| Tommi
Chen,

| Malaysia

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Geoff
Huston,

| Australia

|

|

| 2001

| MAEMURA
Akinori,

| Japan

| Byung-Kyu
Kim,

|  Korea

| Xing Li,

| China

| Qian
Hualin,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Geoff
Huston,

| Australia

|

|

| 2002

| MAEMURA
Akinori,

| Japan

| Byung-Kyu
Kim,

|  Korea

| Xing Li,

| China

| Qian
Hualin,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Geoff
Huston,

| Australia

|

|

| 2003

| MAEMURA
Akinori ,

| Japan

| Yong Wan
Ju,

| Korea

| Qian
Hualin,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Geoff
Huston,

| Australia

|

|

| 2004

| MAEMURA
Akinori ,

| Japan

| Yong Wan
Ju,

| Korea

| Qian
Hualin,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Vinh Ngo,


| Australia

|

|

| 2005

| MAEMURA
Akinori ,

| Japan

| Moo-Ho
Billy Cheon,

| Korea

| Qian
Hualin,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Vinh Ngo,


| Australia

|

|

| 2006

| MAEMURA
Akinori ,

| Japan

| Moo-Ho
Billy Cheon,

| Korea

| Qian
Hualin,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| Vinh Ngo,


| Australia

|

|

| 2007

| MAEMURA
Akinori ,

|  Japan

| Kusumba
Sridhar,

| India

| Wei Mao,

| China

| Vinh Ngo,


| Australia

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

|
Ming-Cheng Liang,

| Taiwan

| Paul
Wilson,

| Australia

|

| 2008

| MAEMURA
Akinori,

| Japan

| Kusumba
Sridhar,

| India

| Wei Mao,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

|
Ming-Cheng Liang,

| Taiwan

| Paul
Wilson,

| Australia

|

| 2009

| MAEMURA
Akinori,

| Japan

| Hyun-Joon
Kwon,

| Korea

| Jian
Zhang,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| James
Spenceley,

| Australia

| Paul
Wilson,

| Australia

|

| 2010

| MAEMURA
Akinori,

| Japan

| Hyun-Joon
Kwon,

| Korea

| Jian
Zhang,

| China

| Ma Yan,

| China

| Che-Hoo
Cheng,

| Hong Kong

| Kuo-Wei
Wu,

| Taiwan

| James
Spenceley,

| Australia

| Paul
Wilson,

| Australia

|

|

| The table
is obvious on many unspoken but visibly glaring aspects which, coupled

| with
certain important excerpts of the by-laws reproduced below, will help in

|
understanding the areas of concern as well as the way forward for the
esteemed

|
APNIC-TALK group:

|

| The
Executive Council:

| .       .....the
Executive Council shall be composed of seven members elected at

| AGMs in
accordance with the provisions of by-laws.

| .      Executive
Council members shall serve on the Executive Council in their

| personal
capacity and shall act in the best interests of the APNIC membership and

| not the
Member organisation to which that individual belongs. Only one individual

| per
Member organisation may be elected to sit on the Executive Council.

|

| Quorum

| .       A meeting
of the Executive Council is duly constituted for all purposes

| if at the
commencement of the meeting there are present in person not less than

| one half
of the total number of Council members or their duly authorised

|
representatives.

|

| EC
Confidentiality


|

| .       All
business undertaken by the EC is confidential to the EC.

| .       All EC
members are requested to execute a formal non-disclosure

|
undertaking with APNIC

| .       EC members
should respect this confidentiality by:

|

|
-  not recording EC meetings

|
-  not inviting other members
to participate in, or listen into EC

| meetings
without the prior permission


|
of the Chair of the EC

|
-  not circulating EC mail
messages to any third party without the

| express
permission of the Chair

|
of the EC-not divulging any membership information of which they are

| aware as
an EC member.

|

|

| Regards
and best wishes,

|

| Naresh
Ajwani

|

|

|
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|
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