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Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for C

Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
From: Sanjaya
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:11:50 +1000
Dear Desi and all,

Any comments sent to the Executive Secretary of the EC at [email protected] 
are strictly 
confidential. But please rest assured that any submissions received have and 
will be acknowledged to 
the parties concerned.

Cheers,
Sanjaya

Desi Valli wrote:
> Hi Sanjaya,
> 
> One more input. As far as the information that I collected, IAMMI, CCAOI, 
> ISOC, ISPAI (Different associations) have produced their support letter. Can 
> you confirm whether these are received at your end or not?
> 
> Regards
> Desi Valli
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: 19 November 2009 09:27
> To: Sanjaya; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call 
> for Comments
> 
> Thanks for that Sanjaya...
> 
> Well, we've seen zero public commentary... especially from this side of Asia 
> Pac... I don't know if there have been any private/direct submissions.
> 
> I guess most of us down here wouldn't have too much insight into how the 
> internet industry works in India and the stability of the organisations 
> proposing to manage INNIC.
> 
> Is there anyone out there who does have such insight and give us people who 
> don't know a little rundown of the internet industry/community over in India 
> - even people from India itself...
> 
> I would like to hear that people in the Indian ISP community is happy with 
> what is being proposed.
> 
> A complete lack of response, supporting for or against is a little concerning.
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
> --
> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> [email protected] / www.eintellego.net
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
> --
> NOC, NOC, who's there?
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:apnic-talk-
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanjaya
>> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 1:23 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR -
>> Call for Comments
>>
>> Hi Skeeve,
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>
>> The objective of the APNIC EC's Call for Comment is not to begin a
>> collective financial analysis of the proposal. Rather, the EC wants to
>> find out whether the APNIC community is comfortable with the formation
>> of an NIR for India, or whether they are aware of risks or further
>> considerations the EC should investigate as part of its evaluation
>> process.
>>
>> If there are concerns related to the financial impact that such an NIR
>> may have on the fees of direct APNIC members, these concerns of course
>> should be noted. Equally, if members think such national entities
>> should
>> be recognized where there is clear local community support, this should
>> also be expressed.
>>
>> The intent of the Call for Comment was to allow members and
>> stakeholders
>> a chance to express their concerns and thoughts on the matter and the
>> EC
>> would certainly appreciate any comments you may care to make.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sanjaya
>>
>>
>> Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>> Umm... It's a good thing?
>>>
>>> I've not seen any public comments on this... Is there any opinions
>> out there on whether the NIR for India is a good/bad idea?
>>> Can we have some commentary from APNIC on the impact of this change
>> will have on revenue (clearly initially none as members would have to
>> cease being APNIC members and become INNIC members - I assume?).
>>> But if they did all become INNIC members, what would the impact on
>> APNIC be?  Not that this is a reason to put forward a negative
>> position, but I am just wondering.
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> --
>>> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>>> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>> [email protected] / www.eintellego.net
>>> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
>>> --
>>> NOC, NOC, who's there?
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:apnic-announce-
>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Secretariat
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:56 PM
>>>> To: APNIC Announce
>>>> Subject: [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for
>> Comments
>>>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>> Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
>>>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> The National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI) has lodged an
>>>> application
>>>> for recognition as a National Internet Registry (NIR). If recognized
>> as
>>>> an NIR, NIXI would be able to offer IP (Internet Protocol) address
>>>> allocation and other APNIC services at a national level in India.
>>>>
>>>> In the interests of openness and transparency, the APNIC Executive
>>>> Council (EC) requests public review of the NIXI application and has
>>>> issued a Call for Comments to gauge community support.
>>>>
>>>> The EC will accept public or confidential comments until Monday, 30
>>>> November 2009 at 17:30 (UTC+10 - Brisbane time).
>>>>
>>>> Confidential comments may be:
>>>>
>>>>  - Emailed to the Executive Secretary of the EC at exec-
>> [email protected]
>>>>  - Submitted using the web form at http://www.apnic.net/NIR_Comments
>>>>
>>>> Comments may also be made publicly and discussed on the "apnic-talk"
>>>> mailing list. More information on the list is available at:
>>>>
>>>>    http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists
>>>>
>>>> The APNIC EC is responsible for evaluating and approving the
>>>> application, but before the EC can do so, it must be satisfied that
>>>> NIXI
>>>> meets the "Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC
>> region",
>>>> as
>>>> set out in the policy available at:
>>>>
>>>>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/nir-criteria
>>>>
>>>> These criteria require NIXI to:
>>>>
>>>>  - Demonstrate formal endorsement at the national level by the
>>>>    appropriate government body
>>>>  - Be an independent legal entity with a non-profit structure
>>>>  - Demonstrate a stable funding model
>>>>  - Demonstrate it holds a neutral position
>>>>  - Have the organizational and technical capacity to implement
>>>>    APNIC address management policies
>>>>
>>>> For more information, see:
>>>>
>>>>    http://www.apnic.net/nir
>>>>
>>>>
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
>> <[email protected]>
>>>> http://www.apnic.net                           ph/fx +61 7 3858
>> 3100/99
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>>> _______________________________________________
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