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Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
From: "Naresh Ajwani"
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:51:35 +0530
One billion plus country has only 70 million English speaking citizens whereas
Internet is touching or has a potential to touch 500 million (we have 500 
million
mobile connections).

Dear Mark, I don't understand just because of the language these 430 million
people don't have any say in policy making or that matter even following it.

Moreso, we have our own set of security challenges, which with unique IP
allocation to each individual has its 2 cents contribution to the solution but
without India model pricing, it is not possible.

Reasons are more or similar when countries like China, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam,
Hong Kong, Korea went for NIR.....

...your support and more inputs would help us to make this endeavour a success.

Regards,

Naresh



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Prior [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 19 November 2009 21:43
To: Naresh Ajwani
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for
Comments

Hi Naresh,

Perhaps you can elaborate on why every state holder of Internet 
eco-system in India is looking forward to have a NIR. What benefit are 
they expecting to get out of having one?

Mark.

Naresh Ajwani wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Every stake holder of Internet eco-system in India has not only 
> supported NIXI but looking forward to have NIR by March 2010. Thanks 
> Desi and Harish for your support too.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers.
> 
>  
> 
> Naresh
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Harish Pokharel
> *Sent:* 19 November 2009 16:19
> *To:* Desi Valli
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Skeeve Stevens; Sanjaya
> *Subject:* Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - 
> Call for Comments
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> That's very great.
> 
> Harish
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Desi Valli <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sanjaya,
> 
> One more input. As far as the information that I collected, IAMMI, 
> CCAOI, ISOC, ISPAI (Different associations) have produced their support 
> letter. Can you confirm whether these are received at your end or not?
> 
> Regards
> Desi Valli
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:apnic-talk-boun[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: 19 November 2009 09:27
> 
> To: Sanjaya; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - 
> Call for Comments
> 
> Thanks for that Sanjaya...
> 
> Well, we've seen zero public commentary... especially from this side of 
> Asia Pac... I don't know if there have been any private/direct submissions.
> 
> I guess most of us down here wouldn't have too much insight into how the 
> internet industry works in India and the stability of the organisations 
> proposing to manage INNIC.
> 
> Is there anyone out there who does have such insight and give us people 
> who don't know a little rundown of the internet industry/community over 
> in India - even people from India itself...
> 
> I would like to hear that people in the Indian ISP community is happy 
> with what is being proposed.
> 
> A complete lack of response, supporting for or against is a little 
> concerning.
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
> --
> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> / 
> www.eintellego.net <http://www.eintellego.net>
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> --
> NOC, NOC, who's there?
> 
> 
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:apnic-talk- 
> <mailto:apnic-talk->
>>  [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
> Sanjaya
>>  Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 1:23 PM
>>  To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR -
>>  Call for Comments
>>
>>  Hi Skeeve,
>>
>>  Thanks for your feedback!
>>
>>  The objective of the APNIC EC's Call for Comment is not to begin a
>>  collective financial analysis of the proposal. Rather, the EC wants to
>>  find out whether the APNIC community is comfortable with the formation
>>  of an NIR for India, or whether they are aware of risks or further
>>  considerations the EC should investigate as part of its evaluation
>>  process.
>>
>>  If there are concerns related to the financial impact that such an NIR
>>  may have on the fees of direct APNIC members, these concerns of course
>>  should be noted. Equally, if members think such national entities
>>  should
>>  be recognized where there is clear local community support, this should
>>  also be expressed.
>>
>>  The intent of the Call for Comment was to allow members and
>>  stakeholders
>>  a chance to express their concerns and thoughts on the matter and the
>>  EC
>>  would certainly appreciate any comments you may care to make.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>  Sanjaya
>>
>>
>>  Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>  > Umm... It's a good thing?
>>  >
>>  > I've not seen any public comments on this... Is there any opinions
>>  out there on whether the NIR for India is a good/bad idea?
>>  >
>>  > Can we have some commentary from APNIC on the impact of this change
>>  will have on revenue (clearly initially none as members would have to
>>  cease being APNIC members and become INNIC members - I assume?).
>>  >
>>  > But if they did all become INNIC members, what would the impact on
>>  APNIC be?  Not that this is a reason to put forward a negative
>>  position, but I am just wondering.
>>  >
>>  > ...Skeeve
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>>  > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>  > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> / 
> www.eintellego.net <http://www.eintellego.net>
>>  > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>>  > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>>  > www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve <http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; 
> facebook.com/eintellego <http://facebook.com/eintellego>
>>  > --
>>  > NOC, NOC, who's there?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> -----Original Message-----
>>  >> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:apnic-announce- 
> <mailto:apnic-announce->
>>  >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
> Of Secretariat
>>  >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:56 PM
>>  >> To: APNIC Announce
>>  >> Subject: [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for
>>  Comments
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  _______________________________________________________________________
>>  >>
>>  >> Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
>>  >>
>>  _______________________________________________________________________
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> The National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI) has lodged an
>>  >> application
>>  >> for recognition as a National Internet Registry (NIR). If recognized
>>  as
>>  >> an NIR, NIXI would be able to offer IP (Internet Protocol) address
>>  >> allocation and other APNIC services at a national level in India.
>>  >>
>>  >> In the interests of openness and transparency, the APNIC Executive
>>  >> Council (EC) requests public review of the NIXI application and has
>>  >> issued a Call for Comments to gauge community support.
>>  >>
>>  >> The EC will accept public or confidential comments until Monday, 30
>>  >> November 2009 at 17:30 (UTC+10 - Brisbane time).
>>  >>
>>  >> Confidential comments may be:
>>  >>
>>  >>  - Emailed to the Executive Secretary of the EC at exec-
>>  [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  >>  - Submitted using the web form at http://www.apnic.net/NIR_Comments
>>  >>
>>  >> Comments may also be made publicly and discussed on the "apnic-talk"
>>  >> mailing list. More information on the list is available at:
>>  >>
>>  >>    http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists
>>  >>
>>  >> The APNIC EC is responsible for evaluating and approving the
>>  >> application, but before the EC can do so, it must be satisfied that
>>  >> NIXI
>>  >> meets the "Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC
>>  region",
>>  >> as
>>  >> set out in the policy available at:
>>  >>
>>  >>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/nir-criteria
>>  >>
>>  >> These criteria require NIXI to:
>>  >>
>>  >>  - Demonstrate formal endorsement at the national level by the
>>  >>    appropriate government body
>>  >>  - Be an independent legal entity with a non-profit structure
>>  >>  - Demonstrate a stable funding model
>>  >>  - Demonstrate it holds a neutral position
>>  >>  - Have the organizational and technical capacity to implement
>>  >>    APNIC address management policies
>>  >>
>>  >> For more information, see:
>>  >>
>>  >>    http://www.apnic.net/nir
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  _______________________________________________________________________
>>  >>
>>  >> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
>>  <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>  >> http://www.apnic.net                           ph/fx +61 7 3858
>>  3100/99
>>  >>
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