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Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
From: Mark Prior
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:12:39 -0800
Hi Naresh,

Perhaps you can elaborate on why every state holder of Internet 
eco-system in India is looking forward to have a NIR. What benefit are 
they expecting to get out of having one?

Mark.

Naresh Ajwani wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Every stake holder of Internet eco-system in India has not only 
> supported NIXI but looking forward to have NIR by March 2010. Thanks 
> Desi and Harish for your support too.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers.
> 
>  
> 
> Naresh
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Harish Pokharel
> *Sent:* 19 November 2009 16:19
> *To:* Desi Valli
> *Cc:* [email protected]; Skeeve Stevens; Sanjaya
> *Subject:* Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - 
> Call for Comments
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> That's very great.
> 
> Harish
> 
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Desi Valli <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sanjaya,
> 
> One more input. As far as the information that I collected, IAMMI, 
> CCAOI, ISOC, ISPAI (Different associations) have produced their support 
> letter. Can you confirm whether these are received at your end or not?
> 
> Regards
> Desi Valli
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: 19 November 2009 09:27
> 
> To: Sanjaya; [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - 
> Call for Comments
> 
> Thanks for that Sanjaya...
> 
> Well, we've seen zero public commentary... especially from this side of 
> Asia Pac... I don't know if there have been any private/direct submissions.
> 
> I guess most of us down here wouldn't have too much insight into how the 
> internet industry works in India and the stability of the organisations 
> proposing to manage INNIC.
> 
> Is there anyone out there who does have such insight and give us people 
> who don't know a little rundown of the internet industry/community over 
> in India - even people from India itself...
> 
> I would like to hear that people in the Indian ISP community is happy 
> with what is being proposed.
> 
> A complete lack of response, supporting for or against is a little 
> concerning.
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
> --
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> NOC, NOC, who's there?
> 
> 
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:apnic-talk- 
> <mailto:apnic-talk->
>>  [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
> Sanjaya
>>  Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 1:23 PM
>>  To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR -
>>  Call for Comments
>>
>>  Hi Skeeve,
>>
>>  Thanks for your feedback!
>>
>>  The objective of the APNIC EC's Call for Comment is not to begin a
>>  collective financial analysis of the proposal. Rather, the EC wants to
>>  find out whether the APNIC community is comfortable with the formation
>>  of an NIR for India, or whether they are aware of risks or further
>>  considerations the EC should investigate as part of its evaluation
>>  process.
>>
>>  If there are concerns related to the financial impact that such an NIR
>>  may have on the fees of direct APNIC members, these concerns of course
>>  should be noted. Equally, if members think such national entities
>>  should
>>  be recognized where there is clear local community support, this should
>>  also be expressed.
>>
>>  The intent of the Call for Comment was to allow members and
>>  stakeholders
>>  a chance to express their concerns and thoughts on the matter and the
>>  EC
>>  would certainly appreciate any comments you may care to make.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>  Sanjaya
>>
>>
>>  Skeeve Stevens wrote:
>>  > Umm... It's a good thing?
>>  >
>>  > I've not seen any public comments on this... Is there any opinions
>>  out there on whether the NIR for India is a good/bad idea?
>>  >
>>  > Can we have some commentary from APNIC on the impact of this change
>>  will have on revenue (clearly initially none as members would have to
>>  cease being APNIC members and become INNIC members - I assume?).
>>  >
>>  > But if they did all become INNIC members, what would the impact on
>>  APNIC be?  Not that this is a reason to put forward a negative
>>  position, but I am just wondering.
>>  >
>>  > ...Skeeve
>>  >
>>  > --
>>  > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
>>  > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
>>  > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> / 
> www.eintellego.net <http://www.eintellego.net>
>>  > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
>>  > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
>>  > www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve <http://www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; 
> facebook.com/eintellego <http://facebook.com/eintellego>
>>  > --
>>  > NOC, NOC, who's there?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >> -----Original Message-----
>>  >> From: [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:apnic-announce- 
> <mailto:apnic-announce->
>>  >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
> Of Secretariat
>>  >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:56 PM
>>  >> To: APNIC Announce
>>  >> Subject: [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for
>>  Comments
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  _______________________________________________________________________
>>  >>
>>  >> Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
>>  >>
>>  _______________________________________________________________________
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> The National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI) has lodged an
>>  >> application
>>  >> for recognition as a National Internet Registry (NIR). If recognized
>>  as
>>  >> an NIR, NIXI would be able to offer IP (Internet Protocol) address
>>  >> allocation and other APNIC services at a national level in India.
>>  >>
>>  >> In the interests of openness and transparency, the APNIC Executive
>>  >> Council (EC) requests public review of the NIXI application and has
>>  >> issued a Call for Comments to gauge community support.
>>  >>
>>  >> The EC will accept public or confidential comments until Monday, 30
>>  >> November 2009 at 17:30 (UTC+10 - Brisbane time).
>>  >>
>>  >> Confidential comments may be:
>>  >>
>>  >>  - Emailed to the Executive Secretary of the EC at exec-
>>  [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>  >>  - Submitted using the web form at http://www.apnic.net/NIR_Comments
>>  >>
>>  >> Comments may also be made publicly and discussed on the "apnic-talk"
>>  >> mailing list. More information on the list is available at:
>>  >>
>>  >>    http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists
>>  >>
>>  >> The APNIC EC is responsible for evaluating and approving the
>>  >> application, but before the EC can do so, it must be satisfied that
>>  >> NIXI
>>  >> meets the "Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC
>>  region",
>>  >> as
>>  >> set out in the policy available at:
>>  >>
>>  >>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/nir-criteria
>>  >>
>>  >> These criteria require NIXI to:
>>  >>
>>  >>  - Demonstrate formal endorsement at the national level by the
>>  >>    appropriate government body
>>  >>  - Be an independent legal entity with a non-profit structure
>>  >>  - Demonstrate a stable funding model
>>  >>  - Demonstrate it holds a neutral position
>>  >>  - Have the organizational and technical capacity to implement
>>  >>    APNIC address management policies
>>  >>
>>  >> For more information, see:
>>  >>
>>  >>    http://www.apnic.net/nir
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  _______________________________________________________________________
>>  >>
>>  >> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
>>  <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>  >> http://www.apnic.net                           ph/fx +61 7 3858
>>  3100/99
>>  >>
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