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Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
From: Desi Valli
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:01:40 +0530
Hi

Just to give a background.

India is currently the fourth largest Internet population in the world, with 
more than 82million users. However it is the second largest country in terms of 
mobile penetration. Saying so it is also to be noted that the mobile internet 
subscriber base has crossed more than 125 million users. Thus the overall 
internet user base makes it to be one of the important decision makers in the 
Internet world. The expected growth in Internet demands more resources and 
better manageability. At the same time, cost is also primary concern in every 
resource that India needs, be it electricity or Internet.

NIXI (National Internet Exchange of India) was founded with the grants given by 
 government of India, and it's a NPO/NGO operated under the supervision of 
Ministry of Information Technology (MIT) of India. Senior members of this 
ministry represent the supervisory responsibilities by way of being the 
chairperson and few board directors. NIXI is also the registry of cctld .in 
managing more than 550K domain names.

In fact there are no other Internet exchange currently available in India. 
Hence forth all operating ISPs are directly or Indirectly connected to NIXI for 
domestic traffic routes. It also manages more than 75 domain registrars 
including international registrars like godaddy and Melbourne IT.

Financials, we can understand about the plenty of surplus it manages to have 
from http://nixi.in/images/Annual_Report_05_2008.pdf .

Government of initiative, organised managed by experts from Industry, NIXI is 
very much capable of being the NIR of India.

Regards,
Desi Valli
COO & ED
Net 4 India Ltd.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
Sent: 19 November 2009 09:27
To: Sanjaya; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for 
Comments

Thanks for that Sanjaya...

Well, we've seen zero public commentary... especially from this side of Asia 
Pac... I don't know if there have been any private/direct submissions.

I guess most of us down here wouldn't have too much insight into how the 
internet industry works in India and the stability of the organisations 
proposing to manage INNIC.

Is there anyone out there who does have such insight and give us people who 
don't know a little rundown of the internet industry/community over in India - 
even people from India itself...

I would like to hear that people in the Indian ISP community is happy with what 
is being proposed.

A complete lack of response, supporting for or against is a little concerning.

...Skeeve

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eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:apnic-talk-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanjaya
> Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 1:23 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR -
> Call for Comments
>
> Hi Skeeve,
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> The objective of the APNIC EC's Call for Comment is not to begin a
> collective financial analysis of the proposal. Rather, the EC wants to
> find out whether the APNIC community is comfortable with the formation
> of an NIR for India, or whether they are aware of risks or further
> considerations the EC should investigate as part of its evaluation
> process.
>
> If there are concerns related to the financial impact that such an NIR
> may have on the fees of direct APNIC members, these concerns of course
> should be noted. Equally, if members think such national entities
> should
> be recognized where there is clear local community support, this should
> also be expressed.
>
> The intent of the Call for Comment was to allow members and
> stakeholders
> a chance to express their concerns and thoughts on the matter and the
> EC
> would certainly appreciate any comments you may care to make.
>
> Cheers,
> Sanjaya
>
>
> Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > Umm... It's a good thing?
> >
> > I've not seen any public comments on this... Is there any opinions
> out there on whether the NIR for India is a good/bad idea?
> >
> > Can we have some commentary from APNIC on the impact of this change
> will have on revenue (clearly initially none as members would have to
> cease being APNIC members and become INNIC members - I assume?).
> >
> > But if they did all become INNIC members, what would the impact on
> APNIC be?  Not that this is a reason to put forward a negative
> position, but I am just wondering.
> >
> > ...Skeeve
> >
> > --
> > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> > [email protected] / www.eintellego.net
> > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> > www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
> > --
> > NOC, NOC, who's there?
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:apnic-announce-
> >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Secretariat
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:56 PM
> >> To: APNIC Announce
> >> Subject: [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for
> Comments
> >>
> >>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
> >>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> The National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI) has lodged an
> >> application
> >> for recognition as a National Internet Registry (NIR). If recognized
> as
> >> an NIR, NIXI would be able to offer IP (Internet Protocol) address
> >> allocation and other APNIC services at a national level in India.
> >>
> >> In the interests of openness and transparency, the APNIC Executive
> >> Council (EC) requests public review of the NIXI application and has
> >> issued a Call for Comments to gauge community support.
> >>
> >> The EC will accept public or confidential comments until Monday, 30
> >> November 2009 at 17:30 (UTC+10 - Brisbane time).
> >>
> >> Confidential comments may be:
> >>
> >>  - Emailed to the Executive Secretary of the EC at exec-
> [email protected]
> >>  - Submitted using the web form at http://www.apnic.net/NIR_Comments
> >>
> >> Comments may also be made publicly and discussed on the "apnic-talk"
> >> mailing list. More information on the list is available at:
> >>
> >>    http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists
> >>
> >> The APNIC EC is responsible for evaluating and approving the
> >> application, but before the EC can do so, it must be satisfied that
> >> NIXI
> >> meets the "Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC
> region",
> >> as
> >> set out in the policy available at:
> >>
> >>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/nir-criteria
> >>
> >> These criteria require NIXI to:
> >>
> >>  - Demonstrate formal endorsement at the national level by the
> >>    appropriate government body
> >>  - Be an independent legal entity with a non-profit structure
> >>  - Demonstrate a stable funding model
> >>  - Demonstrate it holds a neutral position
> >>  - Have the organizational and technical capacity to implement
> >>    APNIC address management policies
> >>
> >> For more information, see:
> >>
> >>    http://www.apnic.net/nir
> >>
> >>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
> <[email protected]>
> >> http://www.apnic.net                           ph/fx +61 7 3858
> 3100/99
> >>
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