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Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for C

Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
From: Adrian Chadd
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:52:34 +0800
Besides regional information; what does this group think it can do differently/
better than APNIC for managing resources?

Basically, what is the motivation for this move,

(I'm just curious here; please don't take my questions as trying to stir
 any kind of trouble.)

Adrian

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009, Desi Valli wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Just to give a background.
> 
> India is currently the fourth largest Internet population in the world, with 
> more than 82million users. However it is the second largest country in terms 
> of mobile penetration. Saying so it is also to be noted that the mobile 
> internet subscriber base has crossed more than 125 million users. Thus the 
> overall internet user base makes it to be one of the important decision 
> makers in the Internet world. The expected growth in Internet demands more 
> resources and better manageability. At the same time, cost is also primary 
> concern in every resource that India needs, be it electricity or Internet.
> 
> NIXI (National Internet Exchange of India) was founded with the grants given 
> by  government of India, and it's a NPO/NGO operated under the supervision of 
> Ministry of Information Technology (MIT) of India. Senior members of this 
> ministry represent the supervisory responsibilities by way of being the 
> chairperson and few board directors. NIXI is also the registry of cctld .in 
> managing more than 550K domain names.
> 
> In fact there are no other Internet exchange currently available in India. 
> Hence forth all operating ISPs are directly or Indirectly connected to NIXI 
> for domestic traffic routes. It also manages more than 75 domain registrars 
> including international registrars like godaddy and Melbourne IT.
> 
> Financials, we can understand about the plenty of surplus it manages to have 
> from http://nixi.in/images/Annual_Report_05_2008.pdf .
> 
> Government of initiative, organised managed by experts from Industry, NIXI is 
> very much capable of being the NIR of India.
> 
> Regards,
> Desi Valli
> COO & ED
> Net 4 India Ltd.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens
> Sent: 19 November 2009 09:27
> To: Sanjaya; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call 
> for Comments
> 
> Thanks for that Sanjaya...
> 
> Well, we've seen zero public commentary... especially from this side of Asia 
> Pac... I don't know if there have been any private/direct submissions.
> 
> I guess most of us down here wouldn't have too much insight into how the 
> internet industry works in India and the stability of the organisations 
> proposing to manage INNIC.
> 
> Is there anyone out there who does have such insight and give us people who 
> don't know a little rundown of the internet industry/community over in India 
> - even people from India itself...
> 
> I would like to hear that people in the Indian ISP community is happy with 
> what is being proposed.
> 
> A complete lack of response, supporting for or against is a little concerning.
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
> --
> Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> [email protected] / www.eintellego.net
> Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
> --
> NOC, NOC, who's there?
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:apnic-talk-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Sanjaya
> > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 1:23 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR -
> > Call for Comments
> >
> > Hi Skeeve,
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback!
> >
> > The objective of the APNIC EC's Call for Comment is not to begin a
> > collective financial analysis of the proposal. Rather, the EC wants to
> > find out whether the APNIC community is comfortable with the formation
> > of an NIR for India, or whether they are aware of risks or further
> > considerations the EC should investigate as part of its evaluation
> > process.
> >
> > If there are concerns related to the financial impact that such an NIR
> > may have on the fees of direct APNIC members, these concerns of course
> > should be noted. Equally, if members think such national entities
> > should
> > be recognized where there is clear local community support, this should
> > also be expressed.
> >
> > The intent of the Call for Comment was to allow members and
> > stakeholders
> > a chance to express their concerns and thoughts on the matter and the
> > EC
> > would certainly appreciate any comments you may care to make.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Sanjaya
> >
> >
> > Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> > > Umm... It's a good thing?
> > >
> > > I've not seen any public comments on this... Is there any opinions
> > out there on whether the NIR for India is a good/bad idea?
> > >
> > > Can we have some commentary from APNIC on the impact of this change
> > will have on revenue (clearly initially none as members would have to
> > cease being APNIC members and become INNIC members - I assume?).
> > >
> > > But if they did all become INNIC members, what would the impact on
> > APNIC be?  Not that this is a reason to put forward a negative
> > position, but I am just wondering.
> > >
> > > ...Skeeve
> > >
> > > --
> > > Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director
> > > eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists
> > > [email protected] / www.eintellego.net
> > > Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954
> > > Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve
> > > www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego
> > > --
> > > NOC, NOC, who's there?
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:apnic-announce-
> > >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Secretariat
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 1:56 PM
> > >> To: APNIC Announce
> > >> Subject: [Apnic-announce] Application for India NIR - Call for
> > Comments
> > >>
> > >>
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> Application for India NIR - Call for Comments
> > >>
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI) has lodged an
> > >> application
> > >> for recognition as a National Internet Registry (NIR). If recognized
> > as
> > >> an NIR, NIXI would be able to offer IP (Internet Protocol) address
> > >> allocation and other APNIC services at a national level in India.
> > >>
> > >> In the interests of openness and transparency, the APNIC Executive
> > >> Council (EC) requests public review of the NIXI application and has
> > >> issued a Call for Comments to gauge community support.
> > >>
> > >> The EC will accept public or confidential comments until Monday, 30
> > >> November 2009 at 17:30 (UTC+10 - Brisbane time).
> > >>
> > >> Confidential comments may be:
> > >>
> > >>  - Emailed to the Executive Secretary of the EC at exec-
> > [email protected]
> > >>  - Submitted using the web form at http://www.apnic.net/NIR_Comments
> > >>
> > >> Comments may also be made publicly and discussed on the "apnic-talk"
> > >> mailing list. More information on the list is available at:
> > >>
> > >>    http://www.apnic.net/mailing-lists
> > >>
> > >> The APNIC EC is responsible for evaluating and approving the
> > >> application, but before the EC can do so, it must be satisfied that
> > >> NIXI
> > >> meets the "Criteria for the recognition of NIRs in the APNIC
> > region",
> > >> as
> > >> set out in the policy available at:
> > >>
> > >>    http://www.apnic.net/policy/nir-criteria
> > >>
> > >> These criteria require NIXI to:
> > >>
> > >>  - Demonstrate formal endorsement at the national level by the
> > >>    appropriate government body
> > >>  - Be an independent legal entity with a non-profit structure
> > >>  - Demonstrate a stable funding model
> > >>  - Demonstrate it holds a neutral position
> > >>  - Have the organizational and technical capacity to implement
> > >>    APNIC address management policies
> > >>
> > >> For more information, see:
> > >>
> > >>    http://www.apnic.net/nir
> > >>
> > >>
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
> > <[email protected]>
> > >> http://www.apnic.net                           ph/fx +61 7 3858
> > 3100/99
> > >>
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> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > _
> > Sanjaya                                     email:
> > [email protected]
> > Services Area Manager, APNIC                sip:
> > [email protected]
> > http://www.apnic.net                        phone:       +61 7 3858
> > 3100
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