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Re: Revealed: 8 million victims in the world's biggest cyber heist

Subject: Re: Revealed: 8 million victims in the world's biggest cyber heist
From: hummingbird
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:08:25 +0100
Newsgroups: alt.comp.freeware, alt.privacy, sci.crypt


On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:28:48 -0700 (PDT)  'baynole2@xxxxxxxxx'
wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:

>On Aug 24, 5:03 pm, hummingbird <hummingb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:48:18 +0100  'Kartnin'
>> wrote this on alt.comp.freeware:
>>
>>
>>
>> >"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >news:GdKdncRLgqPlASzVnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> From: "Ari" <DROPTheJooseIsLo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>> >> | On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 16:38:44 +0200, Anonymous Remailer wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Sunday Herald uncovers theft of data from every guest in 1300 Best
>> >>>> Western Hotels in past 12 months.
>>
>> >>>>http://sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2432225.0.0.php
>>
>> >> It isn't the biggest.
>>
>> >>                                www.theinternetpatrol.com/40-million-us-credit-card-and-debit-">http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/40-million-us-credit-card-and-debit-...
>>
>> >> --
>>
>> >Less data lost but bigger percent of population!.
>>
>> >Nov 2007:  U.K. In Uproar Over Massive Data Loss
>> >                                www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/21/tech/main3529481.shtml">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/21/tech/main3529481.shtml
>>
>> Yep, that was the biggest known data loss by the state in the UK.
>>
>> But it's just the tip of the iceberg...only two days ago a USB
>> stick containing full names of every prisoner including expected
>> release dates, was lost; about 125,000 pieces of personal data.
>> Laptops and Top Secret papers are routinely left on trains or
>> stolen from cars etc. Govt security is like a sieve. Welcome
>> to socialism.
>>
>> --
>>    "All truth passes through three stages.
>>    First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>    and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
>>    (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>Take a look at the Sept. "Consumer Reports."  I hope other countries
>are doing better, but the US govt. is terrible at leaking info. NTM
>some state & local governments.

Yep, I used to think it was just the UK Govt, because data leaks
by govts abroad are rarely reported over here. We've had about 
~10 major incidents of data loss or misuse by govt over here in
the past 2 years. 
This incompetence is by the same govt who have passed a law 
to issue ID cards, which require virtually every piece of personal
data from the whole population, including every past address,
facial recognition scans etc etc etc, the whole nine yards.

In the UK some people are pressing for tight new laws which would
define your personal data as 'your property'. Any misuse, abuse or
loss of it by the state or anybody else, would become a criminal
offence. However, since we have a socialist govt in office, such
control over themselves would be anathema to their religious
beliefs.


-- 
   "All truth passes through three stages.
   First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
   and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
   (Arthur Schopenhauer)

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